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Romney in 2005: Opposed Teaching Intelligent Design in Public Schools
The Brody File ^ | May 7, 2007 | David Brody

Posted on 05/07/2007 11:10:42 PM PDT by TitansAFC

The Brody File is at it again. Another little scoop. According to an interview Mitt Romney did with The Boston Globe in December of 2005, the former Governor of Massachusetts said he was against the teaching of intelligence design in public schools. There are quite a few Evangelicals who believe the exact opposite; that intelligent design should indeed be taught in public schools alongside Evolution.

The quote comes from an article by Frank Phillips who was writing about how Romney felt the Boston media was distorting his views. During the article, Romney defends himself, saying he is not moving to the right just for future political purposes. And he gives intelligent design as proof positive. Here's part of the article:

"Governor Mitt Romney said yesterday that reports he has shifted to the political right to attract Republican primary voters are Boston media distortions, and emphasized that his positions are considered moderate on the national scene. In a wide-ranging interview with the Globe a week after announcing he will not seek reelection, Romney insisted he has remained consistent throughout his tenure in the corner office, adhering to positions he staked out in his 2002 gubernatorial campaign. The governor also pledged that any presidential ambitions he harbors will not dictate his agenda on Beacon Hill. "As I bring forward issues, it is clear that this is not something I am using for my reelection campaign," Romney said. "The Legislature can look at them with a nonpolitical light." Romney contended that political considerations are not the major factor behind his positions. For example, he said yesterday, he opposes the teaching of intelligent design in science classes in public schools, a stance at odds with some conservative voters. He said he arrived at that position without consulting his national political adviser, Michael Murphy."

Read the rest of the article here. The last thing Romney needs is another reason for Evangelicals not to vote for him. His Mormonism is an issue for some. His past flip flops give some pause. Now, past statements against teaching intelligent design in public school. That may play well in a General Election but to put it in football terms, Mitt Romney needs to get out of the first rounds of the playoffs before he competes in the SuperBowl. The first round of the playoffs are the GOP Primaries. Evangelicals will play a key role, especially in the South. Romney wants to be the candidate for Evangelicals. John McCain and Giuliani less so because they've been painted as either a maverick or moderate. So that's why issues like this can hurt Romney more.

So does Romney still believe that intelligent design should not be taught in public schools? I plan to ask his campaign. Check back here. Remember, this is not so much a debate about Intelligent Design. This is about whether an issue like this would give Evvangelicals a little more pause about Romney? President Bush thinks Intelligent Design should be taught.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; id; idjunkscience; mitt; mittromney; romney
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For the record, I have warmed to Romney as of a couple months ago. However, this is a debated issue at FR, so I posted it.

In full disclosure, it appears to me that of the big four (Romney, McCain, Rudy, Fred), David Brody APPEARS to favor Rudy Giuliani. I am not difinitively stating that he does.

I like Mitt, have grown to like him more in the past couple of weeks, and would like to hear his response on such issues. Would he still support a ban on the teaching of ID?

1 posted on 05/07/2007 11:10:44 PM PDT by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

Are any of these strange creatures being paraded before us actually friendly to our cause???


2 posted on 05/07/2007 11:19:28 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: TitansAFC

“There are quite a few Evangelicals who believe the exact opposite; that intelligent design should indeed be taught in public schools alongside Evolution.”

But they’re wrong about that.


3 posted on 05/08/2007 12:42:14 AM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
“There are quite a few Evangelicals who believe the exact opposite; that intelligent design should indeed be taught in public schools alongside Evolution.” But they’re wrong about that.

What is wrong is for materialst naturalism to be taught in school as if it were scientific.

4 posted on 05/08/2007 12:49:59 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: TitansAFC

The people who imagine this issue is a deal-breaker have delusions of grandeur.


5 posted on 05/08/2007 12:55:30 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Memo to Sam Raimi re: the last ten minutes -- I don't forgive you.)
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To: TitansAFC

The Flying Fascist There was a time when Church met State. It was called the Dark Ages.
http://samhensel.wordpress.com/2007/04/07/this-is-cool/

Romney says the First Amendment does not mean that no religion should be established, or that secularism should be established in place of religion. He also says Judeo-Christian values helped found the United States and continue to influence it today. Romney supports keeping references to God on U.S. money, in the Pledge of Allegiance and in public places to remind Americans of their heritage


6 posted on 05/08/2007 12:56:27 AM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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To: TitansAFC

Romney also opposes Second Amendment rights. That’s all I need to know.


7 posted on 05/08/2007 1:39:47 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Run, Fred, run!)
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To: TitansAFC
I am not a Mitt, Rudy or McCain fan. You said, “Would he still support a ban on the teaching of ID?”

I think whoever you are a fan of, if the candidate does not still support their historic records, then they should articulate when and why they changed. Let the chips fall.

8 posted on 05/08/2007 2:13:31 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: TitansAFC

ID is not science and should not be taught alongside evolution.


9 posted on 05/08/2007 2:54:18 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: TitansAFC

Good for him. I hope he sticks to his guns on this issue.


10 posted on 05/08/2007 3:03:41 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: TitansAFC

Oh the evolutionists have done such a great job controlling education, they should take PRIDE in their success.


11 posted on 05/08/2007 3:08:11 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: visualops
ID is not science and should not be taught alongside evolution.

Concurring bump.

The ID/creationist crowd have made a fundamental error: trying to argue matters of faith and mixing them with science. Physics and metaphysics don't mix at the macro level.

12 posted on 05/08/2007 3:41:08 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
The ID/creationist crowd have made a fundamental error: trying to argue matters of faith and mixing them with science. Physics and metaphysics don't mix at the macro level.

They why preach to the little children things happened in such and such manner based solely on theory?

13 posted on 05/08/2007 4:05:25 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: TitansAFC

If any candidate for President can be tagged as supporting teaching ID in public schools, they are GUARANTEED to lose, in the biggest landslide in American history.


14 posted on 05/08/2007 4:07:45 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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“ It has been the error of the schools to teach astronomy, and all the other sciences, and subjects of natural philosophy, as accomplishments only; whereas they should be taught theologically, or with reference to the Being who is the author of them: for all the principles of science are of divine origin. Man cannot make, or invent, or contrive principles: he can only discover them; and he ought to look through the discovery to the Author.”

“ The evil that has resulted from the error of the schools, in teaching natural philosophy as an accomplishment only, has been that of generating in the pupils a species of atheism. Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence. They labour with studied ingenuity to ascribe every thing they behold to innate properties of matter, and jump over all the rest by saying, that matter is eternal.”

“The Existence of God—1810” by Thomas Paine


15 posted on 05/08/2007 4:48:57 AM PDT by ChuteTheMall (Tagline: If you're reading this, I'm influencing your mind.)
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To: visualops
ID is not science and should not be taught alongside evolution.

Amen.

16 posted on 05/08/2007 4:56:21 AM PDT by montag813
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To: unspun

What is wrong is for schools to to undertake social engineering, to forgo discipline for elevation of victimhood, and to increasingly spend more time doing anything but teaching subject matter and critical thinking.
Science is not incompatible with Christianity.


17 posted on 05/08/2007 5:16:57 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: TitansAFC
"Romney in 2005: Opposed Teaching Intelligent Design in Public Schools"

That's a plus, now if I could just trust him on the 2nd amendment.

18 posted on 05/08/2007 5:20:35 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: Jim Noble
If any candidate for President can be tagged as supporting teaching ID in public schools, they are GUARANTEED to lose, in the biggest landslide in American history.

ID/Creation is to the Republicans what Gun Control is to the Democrats: the self appointed "base" wants it, snd it's poison when it goes to the voters

19 posted on 05/08/2007 5:37:30 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Caesar - he is a barbarian and considers that the customs of his tribe are the laws of Nature")
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To: ConsistentLibertarian

Why?


20 posted on 05/08/2007 5:41:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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