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Flying Solo, Part 1: Ailing wife has limited options
The State Newspaper ^ | 5/09/2007 | MissEdie

Posted on 05/08/2007 10:50:01 AM PDT by MissEdie

QUESTION: I am a 42-year-old father of three young children, ages 3, 4 and 7. I am employed by a small company in a small town. My wife, 39, is totally and permanently disabled as a result of strokes and other complications arising from the birth of our youngest child. Although my wife can converse, she is unable to move from the neck down and requires total care.

After it was determined that rehabilitation wouldn’t improve her condition, my group health insurance stopped paying. The most difficult question was whether to place my wife in a nursing facility at $6,000+ per month, which we can’t afford, or try to keep her at home.

I checked into Medicaid and was told that because my wife had a 401(k) and because we were frugal and had been able to save our money, we would have to exhaust most of it to qualify her for benefits. She is receiving Social Security Disability and now has Medicare.

My employer has been very good to me, but that is ending because I have missed a lot of work with sick children, children’s sports and my wife’s care.

I am stressed out and have begun taking sleeping pills and anti-depressants. I am getting no help with my wife’s care, and I have nowhere to turn.

I am torn between caring for her and making sure our children are taken care of and educated. We are both only children and expect to inherit from our families, and have received gifts that we have put away for our children, but my lawyer said these gifts and inheritances would have to be used to provide for my wife’s care. He also said divorce is our only option to get my wife proper care and allow me to raise and educate our children. She agrees.

This is a sad state of affairs, and I wanted you to pass this on to your readers.

ANSWER: We appreciate the opportunity to let our readers know that long-term care issues and Medicaid affect more than just the elderly. And we agree that it is a sad state of affairs when the richest country in the world — a country that has historically taken pride in the strength and unity of the American family — has sunk to pre-1986 depths by again passing legislation called the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005, which takes direct aim at middle-class families like yours and forces breakups of American families for economic reasons.

Impoverishment attributed to a spouse’s need for institutionalization more frequently affects older women who must spend down to poverty level to qualify their spouses for Medicaid, often eliminating a lifetime’s savings. Yet younger families like yours also are caught in the same crunch. This is devastating when young children are involved.

And, as your lawyer correctly told you, the help you receive from your families will go toward her care, ignoring your children’s needs.

So we agree with your lawyer that divorce probably is your only option. Some would disagree, asserting that you should have purchased long-term care insurance. But in the final analysis, you can thank the Congress, the president and the elected officials in your state of residence whose shortsightedness makes this drastic move your only option.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: government; health; insurance
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To me, people like this man and his wife are the reason I pay taxes. Not welfare mooching lazy good for nothing DamRat voters. This makes me angry.
1 posted on 05/08/2007 10:50:04 AM PDT by MissEdie
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To: MissEdie
I feel for him, but I don't understand some of his thinking- quote: "but my lawyer said these gifts and inheritances would have to be used to provide for my wife’s care."-

Who does he think should pay for his financial problems? The taxpayers? While he is sitting on a chunk of money?

Before you count me as an unsympathetic jerk (ok, I might be) I am also a single father of 3 little girls who lost their mother in a car accident.

2 posted on 05/08/2007 10:55:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: MissEdie

In our state, this wouldn’t be the case.

The spouse could keep close to 100,000 dollars in liquid assets (her 401K could be cashed in and transferred into his name), plus the car and house (her name must be off the title) and his wife would still qualify for Medicaid nursing home care. They guy needs to talk to an elder care lawyer, there are also ways of setting up trusts to care for the sick without bankrupting the family. In recent years there has been legislation that allowed more assets to be kept because they found that some folks were “bankrupting” themselves to go into rehab, but then they recovered and when they came out, they had no assets left to live on...thus the laws about the “well” spouse being able to keep liquid assets plus house and car without having to pay down that amount.


4 posted on 05/08/2007 11:00:10 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: MissEdie
Disability insurance is inexpensive if you take out a policy when you're young.
5 posted on 05/08/2007 11:00:26 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Mr. K

Mr. K, you are are not an unsympathetic jerk. That was my first reaction too. And may God bless you and your children.

This guy needs to just buck up, pray and rely on family and hopefully his faith for answers.

She can get disability from SS and Medicare for an in house hospice if she gets real bad.

He will eventually get his money from mom and dad. Prayers for the children.


6 posted on 05/08/2007 11:01:09 AM PDT by poobear
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To: Mr. K
I lost my wife to a protracted illness that wiped us out financially. Were it not for my family stepping in with assistance, I don’t know what we would have done.

This is what I do now: I have appropriate insurance in place and am making every effort that I can to be financially independent for the remainder of my life.

7 posted on 05/08/2007 11:03:24 AM PDT by Stegall Tx (Buy your insurance even when you're 27 and "invincible".)
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To: MissEdie

If he’s a member of a God-fearing Christian congregation, hopefully with their help he could continue to care for her at home. For that matter, even if he wasn’t a church member of even a Christian, I think a church with its priorities straight would do what it could. In the absence of that, and while I don’t think charity is the government’s function, I wouldn’t feel nearly so bad about govt assistance in this case as I would with folks who draw money but could work.


8 posted on 05/08/2007 11:03:57 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Isaiah 10:1 - "Woe to those who enact evil statutes")
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To: MissEdie

Is this an unintended consequence of the Welfare State or one of its’ goals.


9 posted on 05/08/2007 11:04:54 AM PDT by fella (Respect does not equal fear unless your a tyrant.)
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To: wideawake
Disability insurance is inexpensive if you take out a policy when you're young.

And it frequently doesn't pay when a claim is filed. Long term care underwriters have an atrocious reputation on honoring policies.
10 posted on 05/08/2007 11:05:51 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Isaiah 10:1 - "Woe to those who enact evil statutes")
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To: MissEdie

He needs to see an asset protection/planning ATTORNEY immediately.


11 posted on 05/08/2007 11:05:53 AM PDT by TommyDale (Taxpayer funded abortions are not a Constitutional right, Mr. Giuliani!)
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To: MissEdie

This happened to my mother after she got remarried in her sixties and the new husband developed alzheimer’s. Even after he tried to kill her twice, the police would do nothing. No one would do anything, and no one wants to take a violent alzheimer’s patient.


12 posted on 05/08/2007 11:06:24 AM PDT by Eva
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I agree. It’s one thing to have sympathy if he has no resources but I can’t sympathize with his desire to sequester any inheritance for some purpose other than paying legitimate creditors.

That’s why I don’t practice so-called “medicaid planning” - the practice of legally giving away all your assets to your kids so it won’t be subject to the “spend down” provisions of medicaid. (Unlike normal estate planning, which is getting rid of money to keep it exempt from death taxes, a completely legitimate consideration).


13 posted on 05/08/2007 11:09:14 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: wideawake
Disability insurance is inexpensive

Well, it varies by the industry you work in, but my disability insurance (through my employer) costs about $50 per month for this overweight 44-year-old.

14 posted on 05/08/2007 11:12:06 AM PDT by Stegall Tx (Or at least check the prices and make informed decisions.)
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To: MissEdie
The bright lights that write these laws to enslave the rest of us makes you wonder why do we elect such idiots.

Take Action!

Governor Mark Sanford
Columbia, SC
Fax: 803-734-5167
You may also contact the Governor's Office at 803-734-2100.

15 posted on 05/08/2007 11:13:29 AM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: JamesP81

I agree that the reputation of Long Term Care Insurance Co’s isn’t great, but I work for a home care agency and we have never had any problems with the insurance companies & we always get paid. Oddly enough it’s our richest clients who don’t like to pay.


16 posted on 05/08/2007 11:14:19 AM PDT by iluvspongebob
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To: Mr. K

Thank you...I feel for the guy also, and I understand where he’s coming from. Doesn’t mean I would support his prescription for fixing his problem.


17 posted on 05/08/2007 11:18:21 AM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I agree. It’s one thing to have sympathy if he has no resources but I can’t sympathize with his desire to sequester any inheritance for some purpose other than paying legitimate creditors.

I can. There are some family heirlooms that no one, and I mean no one, will get their hands on. I would absolutely transfer those to children or relatives to keep the hands of anyone else off of them. Granted, most family heirlooms might not be worth all that much. But the ones in my dad's family are worth quite a bit more than his house.

I also find it morally suspect to spend your children's inheritance before they even get it.
18 posted on 05/08/2007 11:21:49 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Isaiah 10:1 - "Woe to those who enact evil statutes")
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To: MissEdie
The 'have to be broke' to collect Medicaid has been in effect for years.
My MiL was in a nursing home after a stroke, circa mid to late '90s.
My wife had to sell her mother's house, sign over SS benefits, retirement check, etc. She was allowed 60/mo. for incidentals, and those had to be accounted for.

There is also a 3 yr. rule on transferring assets.

I really sympathize with this man's situation and agree I'd much rather see the government assist his family than a lazy non-worker.

19 posted on 05/08/2007 11:26:35 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: wideawake

Disability insurance and long term care insurance are two different things.
Price long term care ins.


20 posted on 05/08/2007 11:28:58 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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