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Concealed-carry laws have proven effective
Plainview Daily Herald (Texas) ^ | May 6, 2007 | Richard Orr

Posted on 05/08/2007 10:07:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not often that I agree with Rick Perry or Ann Coulter. In fact, this is the first time.

Commenting on the slaughter at Virginia Tech, Nasty Ann said:

“Only one policy has ever been shown to deter mass murder — concealed-carry laws. A comprehensive study of all public, multiple shootings in America between 1977 and 1999 . . . found that concealed-carry laws were the only laws that had any beneficial effect . . . reducing multiple-shooting attacks by nearly 60 percent.

“How did that deranged loner get a gun into a Gun-Free Zone? By the way, the other major Gun-Free Zone in America is the post office.”

Conservative columnist Michael Reagan bolstered Coulter in a recent column when he said the death toll at VT “could have been substantially lower if it were not for an absurd law that kept the students and faculty from exercising their Constitutional right to protect themselves and others by bearing arms on campus.”

According to John Terry — a defense attorney and former prosecutor who hosts a popular morning call-in talkshow on KGNC-AM in Amarillo — random shooting deaths are down significantly in Texas, following enactment of the state’s concealed-carry statute in October 1991.

The Legislature enacted the law in the wake of the Luby’s Cafeteria shooting in Killeen that claimed 24 lives in a 15-minute spree by a mental case who had no friends or girlfriends and didn’t have a very good relationship with his mother. How many others are roaming around out there suffering from similar feelings of rejection, paranoia or persecution?

At the time of the shooting, a woman whose parents died in the fusillade of bullets said she had a gun in her car. Had she had it in her purse, she was quoted as saying things might have been different.

Last week, Republican Gov. Perry said Texans licensed to carry concealed handguns should be allowed to do so anywhere, any time. As it stands, they’re banned in hospitals, workplaces, liquor stores, schools, churches, airports and any number of other places. Perry even wants to allow them in bars, which is carrying things a bit too far.

Anyone interested in obtaining a concealed-carry permit can look in the yellow pages under “Guns.”

Basic requirements for a concealed-carry permit include no felony convictions, a 10- to 14-hour training program, written exam, “live-fire” practice at a firing range and a $140 application fee to the Department of Public Safety. Permits are good for four years. A renewal permit lasts five years. Fees are half-price for senior citizens.

•Meanwhile, didja ever notice that one anagram to Britney Spears’ name spells Presbyterians, as noted by Phil Proctor in the May issue of Funny Times.

•Trying to imagine the White House’s non-involvement in the firing of those eight federal prosecutors is like trying to imagine non-space.

•Question of Alberto Gonzales: If you can’t recall remembering, how can you remember not recalling?

•“My mother used to say there are no strangers, only friends you haven’t met yet. She’s now in a maximum-security twilight home in Australia.” — Dame Edna Everage, a character played by Australian comedian Barry Humphries.

•Veterans returning from Iraq are dismayed at the apparent lack of concern about the war by the bulk of the American public. There’s an easy way to change that: Reinstate the draft.

•Speaking of Iraq, a cartoon can often sum up in an instant what it might take a thousand words to say. Case in point, the cover of that same issue of Funny Times depicting two protesters carrying signs. One says, “Stop the war now.” The other reads, “Stop the war eventually.”

•From the the Web: Texas’ new motto: “Se Habla Ingles.”

(Richard Orr is a Herald correspondent. Contact him at royko@sptc.net)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Texas; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; anncoulter; armedcitizen; banglist; concealedcarrylaw; lubysmassacre; michaelreagan; rickperry; rtkba; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
Even the libs are starting to get it.
1 posted on 05/08/2007 10:07:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, at least Stinky Richard is.


2 posted on 05/08/2007 10:12:02 PM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming like a keynote speaker at a Wellstone memorial.........!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The facts are the facts. Cho and hijackers go to the easy targets. Where everyone is disarmed, it’s open season.

A lot of people do not have the brain power to understand it. Thankfully it seems more and more are accepting the truth.


3 posted on 05/08/2007 10:35:05 PM PDT by Tolsti
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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4 posted on 05/08/2007 11:31:05 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately, not here in California. Only ex-law enforcement and battered wives with a court order can get one. The 2nd Amendment does not apply here. I called Ahnold’s office to ask for his action on this issue and his staffer told me CCWs were available in CA. Yeah, right. “Ask me no questions and I’ll tell you no lies.” Thanks RINO from Oesterreich.


5 posted on 05/09/2007 1:08:28 AM PDT by Judges Gone Wild
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nasty Ann? Sorry Dick, we love her here!


6 posted on 05/09/2007 1:10:20 AM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: IncPen

ping

Question of Alberto Gonzales: If you can’t recall remembering, how can you remember not recalling?

Good question for any of the Clintons.


7 posted on 05/09/2007 2:30:40 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In NC, to get a CCW also requires a check by the mental health department to ensure that you’re no nutso.


8 posted on 05/09/2007 2:37:27 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t understand the logic behind the bar prohibition, which we also have here in Florida. Most people who go in a bar are not stinking drunks who are there to start fights. If you want to go in there and have a beer and meet a friend, so what?

Further, bars are literally covered with very nasty weapons that could hospitalize pretty much anyone if they are used. Yet all the bar fights I’ve ever seen were pushing and shoving matches with maybe one or two punches thrown in the last twenty years. Once I was in a bar when someone picked up a beer bottle and hit someone else with it. Once in twenty years.

And if I want to have a beer at the bar while I’m waiting for my table at the Olive Garden, I’d be committing a crime.


9 posted on 05/09/2007 3:44:26 AM PDT by sig226 (Where did my tag line go?)
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To: sig226
Further, bars are literally covered with very nasty weapons that could hospitalize pretty much anyone if they are used. Yet all the bar fights I’ve ever seen were pushing and shoving matches with maybe one or two punches thrown in the last twenty years. Once I was in a bar when someone picked up a beer bottle and hit someone else with it. Once in twenty years.

You haven't been to the right bars! :)

10 posted on 05/09/2007 6:59:29 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So who is Dick Orr?

And why should he care whether or not the White House was involved in firing the “federal prosecutors”?


11 posted on 05/09/2007 7:30:03 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are numerous factual errors in this piece:
First, concealed carry wasn’t signed into law in 1991; that was the “Ma Richards” regime, and she stoutly refused to sign, one of the reasons that George W. Bush was elected to replace her after only one term.
He signed it into law.

Second, concealed carry is NOT prohibited in churches in Texas, though, individual churches can ban it if they choose to; mine, formerly Episcopal, does not ban it.


12 posted on 05/09/2007 9:43:19 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Cobra64

btt


13 posted on 05/09/2007 9:54:21 AM PDT by southland (Matt: 7-16)
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To: Redbob

At my best friend’s Pentecostal church in Mesquite , the USHERS are armed to protect the congregation, ministers and offering money. He tells me this is more common than one might think.


14 posted on 05/09/2007 1:04:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Nancy Pelosi: The Babbling Bolshevik Babushka from the City by the Bay.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
At the time of the shooting, a woman whose parents died in the fusillade of bullets said she had a gun in her car. Had she had it in her purse, she was quoted as saying things might have been different.

That surviving woman is Suzanna Gratia Hupp, who went on to become a Representative (District 54, 1997-2007) in the Texas State Legislature. Had she taken her gun in with her(and faced possible charges and loss of her practise), she could have saved many lives.

Given a second chance who wouldn't violate some useless law to save lives?

15 posted on 05/09/2007 1:11:30 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; TheMom
As it stands, they’re banned in hospitals, workplaces, liquor stores, schools, churches, airports and any number of other places.

Hospitals - Only if a 30.06 is posted.

Workplaces - Only if a 30.06 is posted or one has signed a contract with their employer.

Liquor stores - Only if a 30.06 is posted.

Schools - Inside, yes; in the parking lot, no.

Churches - Only if a 30.06 is posted.

Airports - Only in secured areas.

Any number of other places - Only if a 30.06 is posted.

Bars - Yes.

Federal property - Yes.

One also has to pay for the classes over and above the fee to the State.

This guy is an idiot.

16 posted on 05/09/2007 3:37:45 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Eaker
This is what I drive to church.

Lousy gas mileage though.

17 posted on 05/09/2007 3:55:44 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Perry even wants to allow them in bars, which is carrying things a bit too far."

Typical anti-CCW response. The REAL answer is to let'em carry in bars, too, and make'em take a breathalyzer test if some incident happens. If they have a blood alcohol level greater than that already written into law that would prevent them from driving a car, give'em a stiff fine and take away their guns temporarily.

18 posted on 05/09/2007 5:42:43 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: sig226

On an earlier post a Right to Carry Map was posted. The following map is more specific (NRA). Maybe someone can picture it for us on the FR.

http://www.nraila.org/images/rtcmaplg.jpg


19 posted on 05/29/2007 8:25:47 PM PDT by dvan
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To: dvan
The carat keys are above the period and comma on the keyboard. Type this:
<"img src="http://www.nraila.org/images/rtcmaplg.jpg"></img>
and you get this:


20 posted on 05/30/2007 3:39:21 AM PDT by sig226 (Where did my tag line go?)
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