[unspun]

Therein lies the rub, yes? Even Christians can't agree among themselves what "God has clearly told and demonstrated to us in His word." Big picture things, yes---perhaps---but plenty of people, on both sides, have died for much less.

Yet, based on God's Word, we've come up with the most wonderful social contract in world thousands of years, or perhaps ever. It's there, in black in white. People can interpret in their own ways, but approaching it in humility takes care of that.

And yes, obfuscation of the truth is no argument.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Yet, based on God's Word, we've come up with the most wonderful social contract in world thousands of years, or perhaps ever. It's there, in black in white. People can interpret in their own ways, but approaching it in humility takes care of that.

I'm always amazed at the naivete of True Believers---as if anything about the above presents a rational argument for anyone other than those who have drunk a similar flavor of Kool-Aid.

And yes, obfuscation of the truth is no argument.

Wonderful. Who's doing such a thing?