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Pope says pro-choice lawmakers should be denied sacraments (Sen. Leahy threatens blackmail?)
Realcities.com ^ | 5/9/2007 | Jack Chang

Posted on 05/10/2007 10:15:57 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

SAO PAULO, Brazil - Pope Benedict XVI kicked off a historic five-day visit to Brazil on Wednesday by sending a tough anti-abortion message that sparked a hemisphere-wide debate over the Roman Catholic Church's efforts to influence politicians.

In answer to a question about Mexico City's recent legalization of abortion, Benedict indicated that he would support Mexican bishops if they were to decide to excommunicate lawmakers who voted for the law.

"It is part of the code," Benedict said, according to reporters aboard the plane. "It is based simply on the principle that the killing of an innocent human child is incompatible with going in communion with the body of Christ."

---SNIP---

Excommunication is the church's harshest form of punishment. An excommunicated Catholic cannot receive communion or other sacraments.

Reaction from Catholic politicians who support abortion rights was swift throughout North and South America.

In Washington, Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., a Catholic, acidly compared the pope's comment to the church's record of protecting priests accused of sexually abusing children.

"I've always thought also that those bishops and archbishops who for decades hid pederasts and are now being protected by the Vatican should be indicted," he said.

In Mexico City, a legislator who voted to legalize abortion said the pope's remark would shake neither her faith nor her support of abortion rights.

"I am religious, I am Catholic and I will continue being one," said Leticia Quezada, a member of the leftist Party of the Democratic Revolution, which supported the abortion bill. "I continue believing in God but not the institution of the church." (dumbass, then you're not Catholic)

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KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; excommunication; leahy; pope; prolife
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"I've always thought also that those bishops and archbishops who for decades hid pederasts and are now being protected by the Vatican should be indicted," he said.

First off, Senator Leahy should be treated as a reprobate, and a public enemy of the Church. This statement is jaw-dropping, and he should be first to receive excommunication, even ahead of Pelosi and Kerry.

Secondly, I agree that the bishops who actively allowed this to happen should be prosecuted. But to threaten the Church because he doesn't like the consequence of his own evil beliefs is beyond the pale.

1 posted on 05/10/2007 10:16:04 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Coleus

ping


2 posted on 05/10/2007 10:19:01 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Why should Lahey get so upset? This doesn’t effect him,a Unitarian/Universalist.
3 posted on 05/10/2007 10:21:28 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: Rutles4Ever

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1830833/posts


4 posted on 05/10/2007 10:22:14 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I firmly believe they should be indicted. The Church should never attempt to intermingle Canon law with Civil law.

But the constant reference to the ‘pederast scandal card’ whenever somebody doesn’t like something about the church becomes very tiresome.


5 posted on 05/10/2007 10:26:32 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Leahy’s a Catholic.


6 posted on 05/10/2007 10:26:44 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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In Washington, Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., a Catholic, acidly compared the pope's comment to the church's record of protecting priests accused of sexually abusing children.

"I've always thought also that those bishops and archbishops who for decades hid pederasts and are now being protected by the Vatican should be indicted," he said.

He sounds like Sean Hannity.

7 posted on 05/10/2007 10:28:39 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., a Catholic, First of all he is NOT a Catholic he is a follower of Hitler and Stalin a left-wing anti-American pig faced member of al-Qaeda.
8 posted on 05/10/2007 10:30:11 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: Rutles4Ever

CINO, maybe.


9 posted on 05/10/2007 10:30:22 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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Leahy says, “I’m a cherry pickin’ Catholic and I don’t recognize the Pope as the head of the church, as I am THE HGIHER AUTHORITY.”

What an idiot. He’s a poser, not a Catholic.

10 posted on 05/10/2007 10:33:22 AM PDT by detch
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To: Rutles4Ever

BTW, the only place Leahy appears to differ with NARL only on PBA. Why does he only get a 50% rating?

http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/Patrick_Leahy.htm


11 posted on 05/10/2007 10:37:19 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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But the constant reference to the ‘pederast scandal card’ whenever somebody doesn’t like something about the church becomes very tiresome.
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I confess that I am finding it a bit tiresome that the Church will not just come out and do what it says is the right thing to do.

Excommunicate them. My tinfoil hat is communicating to me that they won’t, because they fear the backlash.


12 posted on 05/10/2007 10:38:25 AM PDT by dmz
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Is it not true that a catholic priest can’t repeat anything he has heard in the confessional, even murder? If the ped. priests confessed to their deeds in the confessional, the priest who heard the confession is bound by sacred oath not to repeat a word.


13 posted on 05/10/2007 10:43:13 AM PDT by Bitsy
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Mr. Leahy:

No one is twisting your arm to remain Catholic.

I invite you to look at paganism, atheism, Muslim-ism, or Satan worship where the sacrifice of the innocent is looked at favorably.


14 posted on 05/10/2007 10:43:57 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: Rutles4Ever; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...
Pope warns Catholic politicians who back abortion
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Pope Steadfast in Abortion Opposition
Pope warns pro-life Catholic pollies (typo)
Pope warns Catholic politicians who back abortion
Pope warns Catholic politicians who back abortion
Pro-Abortion Politicians Excommunicated, Pope Says (Graphic images downthread)

15 posted on 05/10/2007 10:44:33 AM PDT by Coleus ("God hates moderates, Revelation 3:15-16")
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To: dmz

There is little or no faith aspparent in the US Senate.
Leahy, Kennedy, Kerry..are a few CINO’s (figure it out).
I think they look at their power as Senators and feel
superior to any and all distractions...such as the Pope,
who speaks for our maker...God. JK


16 posted on 05/10/2007 10:45:22 AM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: Rutles4Ever

a number of years back i actually saw Sen. Leahy at Mass at St. Anthony’s Catholic Church in Falls Church VA. i assume it’s his parish but don’t know for sure. dang i wish i had looked to see if he received communion. i know he was sitting in the very front pew.


17 posted on 05/10/2007 10:47:57 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: dmz
Excommunicate them. My tinfoil hat is communicating to me that they won’t, because they fear the backlash.

Maybe this Pope will do it. Perhaps if we show our support for such an action there will be a glimmer of hope it will happen....

The Pope's email address: benedictxvi@vatican.va.

The Vatican's homepage: http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm

18 posted on 05/10/2007 10:49:44 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: Rutles4Ever

In Name Only


19 posted on 05/10/2007 10:51:13 AM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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To: xsmommy

I am not Catholic but I suspect that people like Leahy and Kennedy sit in the front so that they can be seen by the “commoners”.


20 posted on 05/10/2007 10:54:14 AM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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