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Does Barack Obama Have Even More Ambitious Plans for Gun Control?
The Volokh Conspiracy ^ | May 9 | Eugene Volokh

Posted on 05/10/2007 12:18:25 PM PDT by PghBaldy

So I checked out Barack Obama's campaign site to see what he says about guns there. There's no formal position paper that I could find, but there is a speech that says this:

I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manufacturers' lobby -- but I also believe that when a gang-banger shoots indiscriminately into a crowd because he feels somebody disrespected him, we've got a moral problem. There's a hole in that young man's heart -- a hole that the government alone cannot fix.

Any thoughts on what exactly "I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities" might mean?

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; husseinobama; obama
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He is a big time lib and a phony. There is no there there. The media tout him as our new savior, and all he does is repeat tired ld ideas.
1 posted on 05/10/2007 12:18:27 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

More oil from Afro-dytee...


2 posted on 05/10/2007 12:22:11 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: PghBaldy

He is one of the ban them all gun grabbers. He’s worse than Hildebeast (hard to imagine).


3 posted on 05/10/2007 12:24:29 PM PDT by GuineaRabbit
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To: PghBaldy
Hi pretty platitudes are as bad as his glittering generalities and possibly more dangerous.
4 posted on 05/10/2007 12:25:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: PghBaldy

Yep. Another Chicago gun-grabbing liberal. He does have an Al Gorish penchant for exaggeration, though:

1000 deaths v. 12 deaths (in reality)
45 mpg v. 28 mpg (in reality)


5 posted on 05/10/2007 12:29:29 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: PghBaldy

At the Democratic Presidential Debate in South Carolina, when the seven candidates were asked who owned a gun at one point in their lives, only New York Senator Hillary Clinton and Illinois Senator Barack Obama didn’t raise their hands.

“...Obama, meanwhile, proposes several gun-control laws, including restricting purchases of weapons and ammunition at gun shows, establishing a national database that would capture and record imprints left by bullets, and making gun locks mandatory.

On the issue of prohibiting citizens from carrying concealed weapons, Obama said he believes national legislation should be passed to “prevent other states’ laws [allowing citizens to conceal their guns] from threatening the safety of Illinois residents.” excerpt.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/elections/chi-0409150153sep15,1,7897647.story?coll=chi-elections-utl

“...The NRA’s attitude has been that any restriction is an infringement on the rights of gun owners and you know because of the breadth of their membership and the large amounts of money that they have at their disposal, I think they are oftentimes able to scare law-abiding gun owners into thinking that Democrats are going to take away their rights...”

Barak Obama

http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/2007/04/clinton_edwards.html


6 posted on 05/10/2007 12:32:46 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: PghBaldy
but I also believe that when a gang-banger shoots indiscriminately

What kind of Magic Negro thinking does it take to call for an inner city gun ban in one sentence, then express and acknowledge the futility of those laws in the very next sentence. He knows the gang banger isn't abiding by any gun law. Silly Magic Negro.

7 posted on 05/10/2007 12:33:49 PM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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Any thoughts on what exactly "I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities" might mean?

Yeah...."Guns for me (or armed bodyguards or Personal SS Protection because I'm MORE important than you!) but not for you."

Screw him.

FMCDH(BITS)

8 posted on 05/10/2007 12:34:47 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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Listen carefully to Osama-Obama when he is speaking. I have never heard someone say so little with so many words. He is as good as Clinton when it comes to speaking so long and saying so little.

He is right in this though, it seems the major metropolitan centers is where the MAJORITY of the gun crime is.


9 posted on 05/10/2007 12:36:47 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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>...we’ve got a moral problem< NO./s
>There’s a hole in that young man’s heart - a hole that the government alone cannot fill.<

The trouble is, Obama, that the government think it is God! Only God can fill those spaces in us. And we have BIG moral problems in this country, and in the government, that ONLY God can fix.


10 posted on 05/10/2007 12:36:55 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge,)
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>I have never heard someone say so little with so many words.<

Well, FDT comes pretty close. :o)


11 posted on 05/10/2007 12:39:32 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge,)
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Any thoughts on what exactly "I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities" might mean?

It's pretty clear to me. He's going for a D.C. style gun ban.

12 posted on 05/10/2007 12:52:41 PM PDT by shekkian
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To: hophead
it seems the major metropolitan centers is where the MAJORITY of the gun crime is.

The problems of the "inner city" would still be there if firearms had never been invented.

Obama has misidentified a deep social/cultural problem as a firearm problem
13 posted on 05/10/2007 1:05:29 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: PghBaldy

He’s a lib. It means seizing guns from law abiding (European background) citizens and leaving them in the hands of the criminals.


14 posted on 05/10/2007 1:06:54 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: PghBaldy
I also believe that when a gang-banger shoots indiscriminately into a crowd because he feels somebody disrespected him, we've got a moral problem. There's a hole in that young man's heart -- a hole that the government alone cannot fix.

There needs to be a *real* hole in that young man's heart. Or in his head; whatever it takes to stop him from firing indiscriminately into a crowd of people.

15 posted on 05/10/2007 1:17:17 PM PDT by xjcsa (xjcsa...source of number one Google result in search for the word "ecotard" [pleased with self])
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“There’s a hole in that young man’s heart...”

Would that hole be: .22, .32, .380, 9mm, .38, or .45, in size? Curious minds want to know.

And BTW, obaaaaammmmmaaaa, would not identifying the young man as a “gang-banger” be PROFILING?

16 posted on 05/10/2007 2:52:08 PM PDT by Tahoe3002 (Death to Terrorists!!! Semper Fi! USMC 1970-1981)
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To: Paperdoll
About someone saying little with many words, Paperdoll said: "Well, FDT comes pretty close. :o)"

Can you provide some examples?

17 posted on 05/10/2007 4:40:16 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: William Tell

One just has to listen to his interviews. I haven’t heard one which was not an example.


18 posted on 05/10/2007 5:18:30 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: PghBaldy

Barack Obama was on the board of the anti-gun Joyce Foundation before he ran for Senate.

The Joyce Foundation funds fake pro-gun Web sites and academic “studies” that support gun bans.

http://www.joycefdn.org/Programs/GunViolence/


19 posted on 05/10/2007 5:59:16 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Paperdoll
Paperdoll said: "I haven’t heard one which was not an example."

Perhaps you could post just a single example. Maybe the one that most clearly demonstrates what you are describing.

20 posted on 05/10/2007 10:14:54 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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