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Naked picture of 13-year-old brings charges for illegal alien
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | May 10, 2007 | CINDY CLAYTON

Posted on 05/10/2007 2:33:56 PM PDT by csvset

CHESAPEAKE - A 19-year-old who police said is in the country illegally was detained after a store clerk who processed film he dropped off suspected an undressed girl on the film could be underage.

Carlos Ramos of the 3700 block of S. Military Hwy. is charged with producing sexually explicit materials, said Christi Golden, a police spokeswoman. Ramos is being held without bond in the Chesapeake jail. Other charges are pending.

A clerk at the Wal-Mart on Grassfield Parkway called police Tuesday after processing the pictures, which included a 13-year-old girl, Golden said. The girl is nude in at least one of the pictures.

When Ramos went to pick up the pictures, police questioned him about their content, Golden said.

Ramos told police that he was dating the girl, Golden said. The girl admitted to police that she had a relationship with Ramos and her mother told them she was unaware that any sexual activity had occurred.

Police discovered that Ramos is in the country illegally and contacted Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, Golden said.

Ramos will face the charges in court. If he is convicted, he will serve his sentence, then be deported, Golden said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 13; aliens; amnesty; illegal; immigrantlist; immigration; nude; whoops

Carlos Ramos

..her mother told them she was unaware that any sexual activity had occurred.

Hey Ma, you better keep better track of what your daughter is up to. No mention of a father.

1 posted on 05/10/2007 2:34:00 PM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset
We need to be more sennnnnsitive to the cultural differences here...
2 posted on 05/10/2007 2:35:26 PM PDT by null and void (The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.)
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To: csvset
Ramos will face the charges in court. If he is convicted, he will serve his sentence, then be deported

And will then be back up here before you can say "yo quiero amnesty."

3 posted on 05/10/2007 2:36:44 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: csvset

Why is she letting a 19 year old man come near her 13 year old daughter?


4 posted on 05/10/2007 2:36:55 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: csvset

“..he will serve his sentence, then be deported, Golden said.”

To paraphrase Scwarzenegger: “I’ll be back.”


5 posted on 05/10/2007 2:37:07 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is a satanic cult.)
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To: csvset

It’s a cultural thing..... you know, like Pelosi sponsoring Cinco De Mayo.....


6 posted on 05/10/2007 2:38:51 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: csvset

“...and her mother told them she was unaware that any sexual activity had occurred.”

Meaning she was aware her 13 year old was seeing a 19 year old. This womnan should be brought up on charges.


7 posted on 05/10/2007 2:41:18 PM PDT by Bob J (nks)
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To: csvset

Yep, “doing the jobs Americans won’t do.” Now I see what they were talking about: Pimping, child pornography, prostitution, drug dealing, etc..


8 posted on 05/10/2007 2:41:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Nancy Pelosi: The Babbling Bolshevik Babushka from the City by the Bay.)
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To: csvset
How long before the libs start screaming for the head of the Wal-Mart clerk?

After all, the clerk worked for Wal-Mart: Strike 1

This was an invasion of privacy: Strike 2

This was profiling because the perp was an illegal: Strike 3

9 posted on 05/10/2007 2:42:38 PM PDT by technomage (You get what you want one step at a time)
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To: Graybeard58
Hard to say what's going on. If Ma knew, then Ma is an idiot.

Perhaps the young lass told Ma that Carlos was the new foreign exchange student ? /s

10 posted on 05/10/2007 2:42:48 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Mr. Mojo
And will then be back up here before you can say "yo quiero amnesty."

That is why we need flogging as a punishment in this country. Keep coming back but you wont escape the flogging when caught.

11 posted on 05/10/2007 2:47:22 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: technomage

If the clerk was a Republican, then probably within the next few days.


12 posted on 05/10/2007 2:50:55 PM PDT by PJBankard (Americans love a winner, and will not tolerate a loser. -Gen. George Patton)
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To: technomage

If a Dem, then never.


13 posted on 05/10/2007 2:53:22 PM PDT by PJBankard (Americans love a winner, and will not tolerate a loser. -Gen. George Patton)
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To: Graybeard58

Its a culture thing us Americans have a hard time understanding.


14 posted on 05/10/2007 2:56:46 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: csvset

My only hope is that the predator hunters get better and better at what they do, because with the advent of the digital camera, only the real idiots (like this guy) will still be taking film in for developing.


15 posted on 05/10/2007 2:57:39 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Americans won’t/don’t do those jobs?


16 posted on 05/10/2007 3:03:45 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: csvset
If she were my daughter, he would be singing about six octaves higher right now.
17 posted on 05/10/2007 3:03:54 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: technomage

They’re paging the ACLU as we speak.


18 posted on 05/10/2007 3:07:03 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: csvset

What an idiot. Hasn’t he ever heard of digital cameras?


19 posted on 05/10/2007 3:15:55 PM PDT by ChiefChris
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To: teletech

Yeah : )


20 posted on 05/10/2007 3:58:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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It does not matter anyway. Illegal aliens can do anything they want, our politicians made this very clear to us. He’ll get a slap on the behind, and released into society within a half an hour, sooner if Al Sharpton feels that a racist remark was said to the illegal.


21 posted on 05/10/2007 4:39:16 PM PDT by balboa
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To: csvset

Here’s his ironclad defense; she’s was being prepared for an Islamic ritual stoning. That’ll have the ACLU and CAIR lawyers coming out of the woodwork.


22 posted on 05/10/2007 4:58:50 PM PDT by Spok
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To: Graybeard58

You’re getting a look at the culture we are importing to replace our own.


23 posted on 05/10/2007 6:46:46 PM PDT by Pelham (theTerryAndersonShow.com)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


24 posted on 05/11/2007 8:41:49 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Graybeard58

Good question.


25 posted on 05/11/2007 8:51:11 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Graybeard58
Why is she letting a 19 year old man come near her 13 year old daughter?

A fair question.

FWIW, though, this is really nothing new.

When I was in 8th grade (30+ years ago), I knew several girls who had similar relationships. Some of the girls were old for their age, and I suppose thought it was a grown-up thing to do. Some of them thought the guys were exotic.

Others were "lost girls" from the wrong side of the tracks, and usually unattractive. You can figure out for yourself what their motivations might have been.

It was no less wrong then than now, but this stuff been going on forever.

26 posted on 05/11/2007 8:54:51 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: ßuddaßudd
Its a culture thing us Americans have a hard time understanding.

Wake up call - the hispanic birth rate here in Mexifornia outpaces any other, and fathers seem to be nowhere in sight. Our welfare system and child benefit system is overloaded.

We're being colonized, and the "family values" mantra is a joke.

27 posted on 05/11/2007 9:52:26 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Eaker
George Bush is why we will have a democtrat President in 2008 unless this country wakes up and promotes a real conservative.

I have, in the past, defended George Bush on many fronts but on this one I am solidly in your camp and have been for some time now.

29 posted on 05/11/2007 10:37:13 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: ßuddaßudd; Eaker; Bigun
"Its a culture thing us Americans have a hard time understanding."

THIS IS AMERICA, NOT MEXICO.. I don't give a rats ass about their culture. I am sick to death of having their culture shoved down my throat.

30 posted on 05/11/2007 11:49:09 AM PDT by don'tspeak4me
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To: Eaker

I agree, I never seen them at the big town gun show. I had the impression this was on the far end of the parking lot and done in a way the average person was not aware of what was going on either by the crooks or the cops.


31 posted on 05/11/2007 11:50:05 AM PDT by pwatson
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To: csvset
No mention of a father.

And when Ramos' victim gets knocked-up he'll be gone and the cycle will continue.
32 posted on 05/11/2007 11:51:13 AM PDT by BJClinton (WWBJCD?)
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To: ßuddaßudd

You should see all of the very young Puerto Rican girls who are with viable tissue mass. They walk around as if they are sex magnets attracted to Wild and Crazy Guys.


33 posted on 05/11/2007 11:55:23 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: don'tspeak4me
I don't give a rats ass about their culture. I am sick to death of having their culture shoved down my throat.

You and a couple hundred million others I strongly suspect.

34 posted on 05/11/2007 11:56:27 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Eaker
“I never hope for bad for people, but it would be karma if the Bush family takes a hit from the criminal mexicans and OTM that he is visiting upon us” etc.

Eaker, no matter what you think, you’re walking pretty close to the edge. Don’t be surprised if you get a knock on the door from the SS in the next couple of days.

35 posted on 05/11/2007 12:04:46 PM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: TRY ONE

He stated an opinion. Get over yourself.


36 posted on 05/11/2007 12:23:54 PM PDT by don'tspeak4me
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To: gathersnomoss

What you say applies to young Mexican girls too. Our culture views a young teen girl with an unplanned pregnancy in an entirely different way than the Hispanic culture. It derails education and generally leads to a life of poverty. Their culture doesn’t especially value education.


37 posted on 05/11/2007 12:30:31 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Eaker

Please take me off your cc list.

I have no interest in hearing about your wishes of a Bush daughter being “gang raped and killed.”

I have nothing I need to here from such a person. If I did, I’d go to DU for that.

Sick.


38 posted on 05/11/2007 12:36:31 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: don'tspeak4me
He stated an opinion. Get over yourself.

He is suspended for posting that "opinion".

Racist comments are not welcome at Free Republic, ever.

39 posted on 05/11/2007 12:42:26 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: don'tspeak4me; TRY ONE
He stated an opinion. Get over yourself.

He went over the line.

You don't sling deathwishes and harm on people to "serve them right." Get it together. This ain't DU. Yet.

40 posted on 05/11/2007 12:43:47 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Admin Moderator; Eaker
Racist comments are not welcome at Free Republic, ever.

His comment may have been over the top, but racist it was not.

41 posted on 05/11/2007 1:26:40 PM PDT by TheMom (Dix, TexasCowboy and Flyer all now live in the next best place to Texas . . . Heaven!)
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To: gubamyster

Bttt!


42 posted on 05/11/2007 5:59:36 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: csvset

Hey,GOOD looking guy.INNOCENT!Free Carlos Ramos!
Sarcastically yours,Riverman


43 posted on 05/11/2007 6:02:41 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Pelham

And our OWN wasn’t exactly a paragon of morality EITHER!


44 posted on 05/11/2007 6:04:56 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: csvset

No problem. Just a cultural difference. The age of consent in Mexico is 12. Pretty soon she’ll be too old for him and no one will have to worry about it.


45 posted on 05/12/2007 12:40:12 PM PDT by BinaryBoy
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To: Graybeard58
Why is she letting a 19 year old man come near her 13 year old daughter?

I've heard of much worse. A Mexican resident mom (who never learned english) who had an old boyfriend that remained a family friend.
This "friend" starts giving rides at age 34 to her 13 year old daughter to school. This fellow was alreadu married and by the time the girl was 15 and he was 36 he had made the girl his mistress with lots of sex and limited her life until she got out of it herself in her mid twenties. The mother never knew. The older man played her and had her in a Stockholm Syndrome situation and to this day has not been held accountable for any of this.

When I heard about this and came across this Macho Man I informed him of what a big pedophile and statutory rapist he was. Just too bad you can't get someone like that jailed. The now YOUNG WOMAN wouldn't press charges if she could and would be embarrased to let the mother and family know.

She also tried to kill herself twice at 15 and you have to wonder how much the pedophile was responsible for that.

So, this story is not untypical to me in cultures where there is accepted bad treatment of women or expected mistresses in addition to marriage. Sure sucks though.

46 posted on 05/12/2007 1:04:15 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: BinaryBoy

See 46


47 posted on 05/12/2007 1:04:50 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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