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Red Dawn scenario

Posted on 05/10/2007 2:57:33 PM PDT by wastedyears

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To: wastedyears

There are far subtler things underway, and they have to do with the thoroughly opportunistic temporary partnerships that , say , Lefties have forged with the P.R. spokesmen of Islam, like CAIR, and just about everyone and everything else that can combine for short and longterm power plays, and we can add to that mix the Illegal Alien “movement”, which, at its worst , aims to intimidate us into honoring their totally unearned “entitlement” every bit as much as the Islamic troublemakers have. What all these things have in common is their bluntly partisan nature-—anything and everything will be tried for effect as long as it helps in the project of destroying and discrediting the current Administration and the chances of Republicans to reclaim any portion of political power.


141 posted on 05/10/2007 11:35:34 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: wastedyears


"I've been around that trashy kind of talk all my life and I'll not have it my pool hall...


~ Sam the Lion ~

The Last Picture Show
142 posted on 05/10/2007 11:43:59 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Dosa26
I think Eagle Eye is flaming me because he thinks I don't believe that patriots fighting back any way they can is the right thing to do. I'm armed to a point beyond reasonable, but it's not to repel foreign invaders. It's to repel several varieties of "inhabitants" of this country, barely qualifying as "American" or "citizen". I'm old enough to have witnessed all the civil riots since the early 1950's. I know who my enemies are, and it's not Spetznatz parachuting into my back yard.

"24" appears to do a good job of portraying who our external enemies are, and their methods. Too bad we don't have anything remotely like CTU or any Jack Bauers. What we do have is a massive and inconceivably indifferent bureauocracy sniffing around in people's shoes at the airports and ignoring a tidal wave of illegals coming north. What we do have is a government and culture racing towards socialism, where everyone is being force-fit into being "equal" when they most certainly are not.

144 posted on 05/10/2007 11:50:05 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: wastedyears
Well most conservatives, family values, red blooded Americans would fight. You know the very people the leftist hate so much. Now compare that to the soc called, “Progressives” (aka liberals, leftist, socialist, communist) that would just bend over and grab their ankles.
145 posted on 05/10/2007 11:50:55 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: supremedoctrine
we can add to that mix the Illegal Alien “movement”, which, at its worst , aims to intimidate us into honoring their totally unearned “entitlement”

I don't mean to hijack the thread but shamnesty would litterally be the death-nell for the conservative movement. I know that some people have good reasons for supporting it like SS taxes and some hardworkers to "indenture" themselves for awhile, but the votes will tell the story in the end and they will vote with the dems to get more in to suck off uncle sams teat in the end. Then it will be too late.

146 posted on 05/10/2007 11:55:14 PM PDT by Dosa26 (Things fall apart, the center does not hold)
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To: Dumpster Baby
What we do have is a massive and inconceivably indifferent bureauocracy sniffing around in people's shoes at the airports and ignoring a tidal wave of illegals coming north. What we do have is a government and culture racing towards socialism, where everyone is being force-fit into being "equal" when they most certainly are not.

No doubt.

147 posted on 05/11/2007 12:04:18 AM PDT by Dosa26 (Things fall apart, the center does not hold)
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To: VRWCmember
...When this movie was made Patrick Swayze looked like a kid just out of high school...

Red Dawn was made in 1984. Hard to believe that 11 years later he was in this movie:

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0114682/Ss/0114682/fcstil_0128a.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0114682

To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar (1995) - Patrick Swayze

148 posted on 05/11/2007 12:11:29 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Dumpster Baby; wastedyears

>>> The only overland invasion route with a remote chance of any penetration is through
Mexico <<<<

That is how it happend in the movie. The paratrooper drop was to secure the mountain pass road near the town And it was “ foreign workers” along the border & on bases that
“opened the door”

Illegals Caught Working on US Military Aircraft
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1409715/posts

PROPOSED BASE CLOSINGS TO REVEAL LOSS OF INDUSTRY
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1408916/posts

Red dawn??

Panama’s President Ignoring Chinese Smuggling
http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/8/22/100034

Chinese Enter U.S. Through Virgin Islands
http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/8/10/214414

Navy Officer Warns of Chinese Subs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1452573/posts


149 posted on 05/11/2007 12:40:38 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: Dosa26

Well, there is NO real dialog that has gone on, or ever WILL go on about the invasion——Bush fiddles while the Border burns, awaiting some far-off “comprehensive Plan”. It is a sick, sad joke, that this lawlessness could EVER have been tolerated, and sicker yet that there seem to be an endless supply of stories centering on Border Agents trying to do their jobs and getting prosecuted by their own Governments for their trouble. Bush, sorry to say, is proving to be the best friend the Open Borders crowd could ever wish for-—watching this day after day is a real stomach-turning experience. Just WHO or WHAT is determining policy??? Let’s stand up , assess the situation, and just make ONE demand -—for example, let’s request,not even demand of Mexico, some specific quantity of oil for every illegal that is here—if we have the nerve to demand that (or REQUEST that our own Government even REQUEST that)we can at least credit ourselves with retaining some small hold on common sense. As it is, it is Mexico that is determining our policy toward Mexico/


150 posted on 05/11/2007 12:41:55 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: confederatetrappedinmidwest

But that was before Dem-o-Rats The enemy is in DC not from the outside.

Which is more dangerous to the US?

Osom. with a nuc in NY
ADL, ACLU, Rats,...with an activist judge


151 posted on 05/11/2007 12:58:43 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: quietolong
Yes, those are threats of varying degrees of seriousness. The point of a military invasion is to take land and hold it until the enemy population is defeated. Do you honestly believe any foreign power could mass that much military power anywhere near us without being detected, would risk nuclear annihilation while invading, and could actually force hundreds of millions of extremely pissed off Americans to surrender?

Terrorism is not military conquest. Sabotage and infiltration along the border doesn't touch thousands of military aircraft and armored vehicles scattered around the rest of the country. Any sabotage committed as the opening salvo alerts millions to the danger, and nothing moves from there on out without being reported and interdicted.

Do you really have that little faith in the Americanus Redneckus?

152 posted on 05/11/2007 12:59:47 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: supremedoctrine
Everybody on the floor...We're takin' this thread strait south to the rio grande..

Bush, sorry to say, is proving to be the best friend the Open Borders crowd could ever wish for-—watching this day after day is a real stomach-turning experience. Just WHO or WHAT is determining policy???

I wish I had some thing good to tell you. I'm not inclined to believe it is some thing so simple as a cheap labor sell out. I think it has more to do with the need for an invigoration of new "hungry" underclass that we will need since we have become as a country fat and happy. Our leaders have decided that we need 100 million new poor people to give us a shot in the arm and marry ourselves to central america at the same time. I don't agree with the way they are going about it...hell I don't agree with the concept as it has been presented, mainly because it hasn't been presented as such. The concept could be good under certain circumstances. As it is it looks like a crap sandwitch.

153 posted on 05/11/2007 1:12:56 AM PDT by Dosa26 (Things fall apart, the center does not hold)
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To: Dumpster Baby

We’re both basically saying the same thing.

>>> believe any foreign power could mass that much military power <<<
No way There is no outside force on earth that defeat us. Only we can do that.

>>> Do you really have that little faith in the Americanus Redneckus <<<
I have alot faith in the “Americanus Redneckus” just not in DC or the “Made In NY City!!” crowd. LOL
Problem is The Blue coasts and what there doing to the “Americanus Redneckus”

Look what they tried to do in WI under the name of “Anti-Terrorism Legislative Package”

WCCA alert: Doyle/Baumgart bill gets worse (99% banned)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/614867/posts

Baumgart, Doyle Propose Gun Ban
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/612231/posts

Doyle urges fight against gun lobbyists
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3896049f7e88.htm

Not registering
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1828765/posts

Secrets, Lies, and Atomic Spies,.....Or... Joe McCarthy was more right than he ever knew
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/622675/posts

>>> One of the things that it showed was how many Communists spys there were in high government posts. AND that there were over 300 spys never identified

How many do we have in government NOW. <<<<<

Not only the old USSR

A good book to read:

The State Boys Rebellion
http://www.simonsays.com/content/content.cfm?sid=33&pid=422319

It’s interesting that Germany looked to the US for it’s ideas on eugenics.

Excerpt from link:

Though they couldn’t possible know it, the children of the Fernald State School were the victims of bad science and a newly developed bureaucracy designed to save America from the so-called “menace of the feebleminded.” Beginning early in the twentieth century, United States health officials used crude versions of the modern IQ tests to identify supposedly “deficient” children and lock them away. The idea was to protect society from potential criminals and to prevent so-called undesirables from having children and degrading the American gene pool......

...... It reveals the danger in misguided science, the fearsome power of unchecked bureaucracies,

Pay attention to the first chapters on the history of eugenics. Just replace “feebleminded” With “conservative” To see what there real goal is. Need more proof. Read about the battle at Hue.

You must be a “mentally defective” Redneck, Bush backer,....
If you don’t agree with the superior intellect of the lefty liberals /s


154 posted on 05/11/2007 1:31:02 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: quietolong
My alter ego, only not quite as insane:

And yes, I have that same shootin' iron, too.


155 posted on 05/11/2007 1:43:46 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Dumpster Baby

LOL well what did I say. So Do I. Well close A Blackhawk
Is that a S&W?


156 posted on 05/11/2007 1:51:40 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: wastedyears

It’s already happening.


157 posted on 05/11/2007 1:57:54 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: quietolong
S&W Model 29, 8" barrel. Actually, mine is a 6.5" barrel Dirty Harry gun that I got by accident during the Dirty Harry craze that swept the gun shops way back when. I was working in a cop shop at the time, and the waiting list for M29's was 2-3 years then. A few came in to fill the many backorders and the manager opened one of them up with a ballpoint pen, left a blue trench across the lid of the wooden presentation box. I claimed the damaged unit since any customer who got it would howl and stamp his feet when he saw the box. That was in the early 1970's.

I love the smell of H748 in the morning.....

158 posted on 05/11/2007 2:02:14 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Dumpster Baby

LOL! :)


159 posted on 05/11/2007 2:10:00 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: wastedyears
IT'S ONLY A MOVIE!
160 posted on 05/11/2007 2:31:12 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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