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Weight Grade on Report Cards Angers Parents (Wyoming School District Uses BMI to Grade)
ABC News ^ | May 8, 2007 | JOHN DONVAN and KATIE HINMAN

Posted on 05/10/2007 3:00:54 PM PDT by Baladas

Four times during the school year in Campbell County, Wyo., the school sends report cards home. Anxious parents and worried students are provided with the typical grading categories -- academic performance, attendance and a work ethic score.

But here in Gillette, there's an additional grade that has some families up in arms.

It's called the body mass index, or BMI, a calculation based on height and weight that indicates whether your kid is too fat. The school chooses the word "overweight." If your child scores too high, it's the fitness equivalent of a bad grade. When Taylor Barbour came home with a BMI score of 32, seven points over the "normal range," his mother, Rosie Barbour, was none too pleased. Her anger was directed not at her 12-year-old son but at the school.

"It just doesn't have any place in the school," said Barbour. "It's fine if you want to teach them how to eat healthy, and make better choices during health class, but I don't think giving them BMI on their report card" is the answer.

'The Strong Kids Club' On top of that, the school district sent a letter in the mail inviting Taylor -- and 172 other kids with high BMI scores -- to join an exercise program three times of week. It's called the Strong Kids Club and came free to his family, with a promise that "it will be fun."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: health; healthnazis; healthypeople2010; leftistagenda; nannystate; publiceducation; publikskoolz; unitednationsagenda
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The nanny state oversteps again.
1 posted on 05/10/2007 3:00:58 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: Baladas

OMG! what about their SELF-ESTEEM!!


2 posted on 05/10/2007 3:03:11 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Mr. K

How do they justify this I wonder? Do they consider this a type of health screening? Schools have screened children for hearing and vision problems for a long time, and require certain immunizations as a health matter.


3 posted on 05/10/2007 3:07:44 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Baladas
Ya know, if they did this correctly, I wouldn’t think it such a bad thing.

They should put the kids through physical training, the same sort the military goes through, then grade ‘em on performance. The goal, of course, would be to train them up to military physical standards and better.

It would be good for the kids and good for the country.

4 posted on 05/10/2007 3:10:05 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Baladas

I’m fine with it — as long as students are allowed to formally rate and document teachers on their own physical characteristics.


5 posted on 05/10/2007 3:11:26 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Baladas

My husband, who taught for many years at a religious school, had to give a grade on the report card for “religious conduct.”

He always left that blank, saying “I’ll let G-D fill in that grade.”


6 posted on 05/10/2007 3:12:50 PM PDT by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Baladas

One more example of the public schools attempting to take over the role of parent.


7 posted on 05/10/2007 3:12:51 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SteveMcKing
as long as students are allowed to formally rate and document teachers on their own physical characteristics.

They've been doing it informally since the advent of schools.

8 posted on 05/10/2007 3:13:15 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: SteveMcKing
LOL! The teachers should also have to retain healthy BMIs to retain their jobs.
9 posted on 05/10/2007 3:14:06 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: Mr. K
That doesn’t apply to the chubettes, only to the homo’s....get with the program.

Schools need to focus on academics.

10 posted on 05/10/2007 3:19:17 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Little Ray
Ya know, if they did this correctly, I wouldn’t think it such a bad thing.

I don't trust the BMI thing. There are just too many body types out there. I realize the issue is to deal with childhood obesity but I think there is too much lack of common sense in our schools to carry such a program out.

Two examples: I had a friend who was 6' 4" and really an "Amazon" type woman in regard to bone structure etc. She joined weight watchers (which I support btw) but their scale of appropriate weight for her was totally ridiculus and out of whack for her body type. Second: I have a nephew is looks perfectly normal in regard to weight and heighth. But you try to pick the kid up and he is as heavy as an anvil. I guess he is just really dense. And just for fun a third: It never fails that when I tell people what I weigh they say, "no way!". I've always downed myself because of my weight until finally a Dr. told me they don't consider me overweight...even though on their "scale" I don't fall in the weight range for my age etc.

11 posted on 05/10/2007 3:20:02 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Baladas

They’re trying to cut the wrong fat from education.


12 posted on 05/10/2007 3:20:13 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Forty on the highway, forty in the driveway.)
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To: Baladas

Well, I guess if you’re of Samoan or Tongan ethnicity, you may as well give up.


13 posted on 05/10/2007 3:20:16 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Baladas

This should a warning about how much our society is piling on the schools. Health Education is one thing, but evaluation of body type in a child just adds the hassles that the schools have to deal with in addition to testing and NCLB.
Classrooms used to a more fun, creative places, with a lot of leeway to accomodate parents and the latest teaching techniques. Now they are testing centers, and palaces to politically correct micromanagement.


14 posted on 05/10/2007 3:24:07 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: TXBubba

I’m sure I don’t want BMI measured - I want military type physical training and grading based on performance. I think physical performance is more important that weight, BMI, etc.


15 posted on 05/10/2007 3:26:55 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Baladas

Not that I think the BMI index is particularly accurate, but you have to be pretty heavy to get a 32. BMI = ( Weight in Pounds / ( Height in inches ) x ( Height in inches ) ) x 703. Let’s say the 12 YO was 5’ 2” tall. To get a BMI of 32, he’d be around 175 pounds.


16 posted on 05/10/2007 3:27:28 PM PDT by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: Baladas

This man's BMI is over 40 in this picture. According to the ninnies at this school, he would receive a bad grade in fitness. In this pic, his body fat is somewhere less than 5%.

17 posted on 05/10/2007 3:34:17 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Little Pig

according to Bull**** the BMI was devloped by a 19th stastican and is irrelevant to actual fitness. I say we aim to change fitness programs in school to heavily focus on weight traning to mess up the socialist sissy’s grading.


18 posted on 05/10/2007 3:38:36 PM PDT by John Will
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To: Baladas

There should be a grade that the parents can report back with in regards to “How do you rate the education of your child”?


19 posted on 05/10/2007 3:38:55 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Baladas

all my kids get pudgy right before a growth spurt.

They get tub around their bellies, and then BOOM! they stretch and become thin again.

I wonder how that would affect their gpa?


20 posted on 05/10/2007 3:44:19 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Baladas
It's called the body mass index, or BMI, a calculation based on height and weight that indicates whether your kid is too fat.

And if THAT doesn't place those pesky kids in lockstep to be perfect, well then we can ALWAYS toss more money at it!

Reaching Utopia doesn't come cheap!

21 posted on 05/10/2007 3:44:55 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; BlackElk; blu; cgk; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles.
22 posted on 05/10/2007 3:45:57 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Gabz
Ping!

Get a load of this one...

23 posted on 05/10/2007 3:46:01 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Little Pig

I should add that by having a BMI over 40, this guy is considered “Morbidly Obese”.

With a body fat percentage of less than 5%

Do I need to spell out just how idiotic is is to use BMI for *anything*?


24 posted on 05/10/2007 3:55:25 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Little Ray

I want military type physical training and grading based on performance.

Tell me how you would grade my child who has Asthma? So far she can run, play and is even in ballet but the chances of her ever being able to train for the military or in that style are not good. It wouldn’t be fair to kids like her that are not able to do those things. I agree a program would be good but I don’t think all children could do it.


25 posted on 05/10/2007 3:56:24 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: metmom

Do the new reasons to homeschool ever stop?


26 posted on 05/10/2007 3:57:31 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: Baladas
They're grading the kids on their genes:

Genes Take Charge, and Diets Fall by the Wayside

27 posted on 05/10/2007 4:02:09 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Baladas

I remember some kind of fitness testing we did in school back in the 60s and 70s. It was some kind of JFK-inspired program, I think.

We had to run a half-mile, do a bunch of pushups and pullups, and do the “bent-arm hang”, where you held yourself at eye-level from a chin-up bar until you passed out from the pain.

Anyone else here remember this?


28 posted on 05/10/2007 4:04:43 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Baladas

It might help, but consider this:

May 6, 2007

Fat Chance By EMILY BAZELON

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Bazelon.t.html

RETHINKING THIN The New Science of Weight Loss — and the Myths and Realities of Dieting.

By Gina Kolata. 257 pp. Farrar, Straus & Giroux. $24.

If you had to choose, would you rather be fat or blind? When a researcher asked that question of a group of formerly obese people, 89 percent said they would prefer to lose their sight than their hard-won slimness. “When you’re blind, people want to help you. No one wants to help you when you’re fat,” one explained. Ninety-one percent of the group also chose having a leg amputated over a return to obesity.

This is shocking. But it seems less so by the end of “Rethinking Thin,” a new book about obesity by Gina Kolata, a science reporter for The New York Times. Kolata argues that being fat is not something people have much control over. Most people who are overweight struggle to change their shape throughout their lives, but remain stuck within a relatively narrow weight range set by their genes. For those determined to foil biology, strict dieting is a life sentence. “I am a fat man in a thin man’s body,” an M.I.T. obesity researcher who shed his unwanted pounds years ago tells Kolata.

Rest of review is at the link.

An open question is: does it make a difference to encouraging children to avoid accumulating a lot of “excess” fat cells early in life. Maybe, like cholesterol, it’s not something that can be easily regulated by diet.


29 posted on 05/10/2007 4:04:55 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: pandoraou812
My wife has asthma and is in better shape than I am - used to be a cross-country runner.
In any case, you’re right, there would have to be medical accommodations...
30 posted on 05/10/2007 4:06:05 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Just when you think you’ve heard it all......


31 posted on 05/10/2007 4:22:51 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Baladas
When Taylor Barbour came home with a BMI score of 32, seven points over the "normal range," his mother, Rosie Barbour, was none too pleased. Her anger was directed not at her 12-year-old son but at the school.

Hmmm... is 25% really the normal range for a 12 year old boy? The tables I found only go down to age 17 (from Army Regulation AR 600–9, 10 June 1987):
c. Maximum allowable percent body fat standards are as follows in table 2. However, all personnel are encouraged to achieve the more stringent Department of Defense (DOD)-wide goal, which is 20 percent body fat for males and 26 percent body fat for females.

Table 2 Maximum allowable percent body fat standards
Age Group: 17–20
Male (% body fat): %20
Female (% body fat): %28

Age Group: 21–27
Male (% body fat): %22
Female (% body fat): %30

Age Group: 28–39
Male (% body fat): %24
Female (% body fat): %32

Age Group: 40 & Older
Male (% body fat): %26
Female (% body fat): %34

32 posted on 05/10/2007 4:28:50 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: Baladas
I have never met a fat homeschooler who has been homeschooled from the beginning. Never.

Since homeschooling is so efficient and takes so little time, these children have plenty of time to play. Play means exercise which means calories burned and muscles built. Muscle also burns calories at a higher rate.

Also,,,the mom is home to supervise snacks and to provide nutritious meals. Who knows what institutionalized children get in their schools either from the cafeteria, vending machines, teachers, and other students.

Also, those kids in daycare after school are often pacified with food by their babysitters.

33 posted on 05/10/2007 4:39:55 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: pandoraou812; Little Ray
It wouldn’t be fair to kids like her that are not able to do those things.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fair. Fair. Fair.

Can’t hurt anyone’s feelings. Instead, have all the other children unfit because one child has asthma and can’t participate. ( sigh!)

34 posted on 05/10/2007 4:45:21 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Do the new reasons to homeschool ever stop?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^66

Sadly, no.

Why on earth are parents still institutionalizing their kids?

35 posted on 05/10/2007 4:46:29 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wintertime

No. If the asthma is severe enough, a student should get a medical waiver and then be sent to a different class. Otherwise, he should get graded along with the rest.
It should be about perfomance, not fairness...
But its all just an exercise in wishful thinking.


36 posted on 05/10/2007 4:53:13 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: wideminded
I enjoyed reading your article.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I lost 80 pounds, and have maintained that weight loss for more than 2 years.

As in the article, I am **constantly** starving! I dream of food when I sleep. I fantasize about food when awake. I watch the clock waiting for the next time I can eat.

I scrupulously measure ***every*** crumb that goes into my mouth, and I absolutely can NOT eat more than 1,200 calories a day. That is equal to about 4 glasses of 1% milk, 4 pieces of bread, 2 eggs, and a banana. Try doing that for the rest of your life!

If I am starving, I know I have eaten enough.

It will be this way until I die.

Only gastric bypass has been shown to reduce appetite. Unfortunately, I was never fat enough to qualify, and I will never qualify at a normal weight.

That I remain thin require the same will-power, brute mental force, and will power that it took for me to earn a doctorate in my profession.

37 posted on 05/10/2007 4:59:36 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Baladas

His mom is creating a fat ass. Congrats mom. Physical activity is good for the body and mind.


38 posted on 05/10/2007 4:59:43 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Little Pig

Obviously the BMI isn’t perfect. It is obvious when someone is overly muscular vs. a fat ass.


39 posted on 05/10/2007 5:00:49 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

strict dieting is a life sentence

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Overwhelming hunger goes along with it. It NEVER goes away.

Imagine how you felt when you were **really**, **really**, hungry?

That is how I feel 24/7.

**Strict** dieting is my constant companion.


40 posted on 05/10/2007 5:03:36 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wideminded; Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
Ok...So? ,,,,Why are there **more** fat kids in school than there once was?

When I was growing up there were **no** fat children in my elementary class. (Hey! I was thin!) Chubbiness only seemed to show up in adolescence. Perhaps it is because all the children walked to and from school and went home for lunch. In high school we rode public transportation.

And,,,I have never met a fat homeschooler who has been homeschooled from the beginning.

41 posted on 05/10/2007 5:07:55 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Baladas

Tape the teachers and fire the fattys.


43 posted on 05/10/2007 5:16:10 PM PDT by Modok
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To: Wiseghy

This isn’t anything new. I remember my older brother had “obesity” marked on his report card in grade school.

BMI is probably a step in the right direction. (Assuming you think this is the purview of public schools) Weight tables are deceptive, because muscle weighs more than adipose tissue. Very buff, muscle-bound weightlifters bust all sorts of standard “you should weigh ___lbs to be healthy.”


44 posted on 05/10/2007 5:45:40 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Disambiguator
Yes, I remember that. I think the running part was the “six sixty”. The kids who did the events well received patches. I never got a patch.
45 posted on 05/10/2007 5:48:52 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: Disambiguator

The Presidential Fitness Test (something like that)

I failed. Might have been the pullups. It was pullups for boys. Good thing I didn’t know anything about psychology, or I would have been really screwed up or life.


46 posted on 05/10/2007 5:51:30 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: A knight without armor
"I never got a patch."

Me either! I *wanted* that patch.
47 posted on 05/10/2007 5:53:19 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Disambiguator

I remember the physical fitness test. As if I didn’t feel like enough of a loser. By high school we would do the 50 yard dash, the other kid would be ahead of me and I’d just walk the rest of the way figuring it just wasn’t worth it.


48 posted on 05/10/2007 5:58:50 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Disambiguator

BTW, we ran the mile. About half a mile I’d be having a bronchial attack.


49 posted on 05/10/2007 5:59:56 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: wintertime
I have never met a fat homeschooler who has been homeschooled from the beginning. Never.

So what? I know of at least 6, and 2 of them are the brattiest bullies I have ever met and will not permit my daughter to associate with them. Of course the parents thrive on their "better than anyone" attitudes, and like me, the rest of the homschooling parents do not let their children associate with those 2.

My anecdotal experiences are just as valid as yours - whether you like it or not.

50 posted on 05/10/2007 6:15:38 PM PDT by Gabz (Nemo me impune lacessit (Latin for "No-one provokes me with impunity"))
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