Posted on 05/11/2007 5:16:33 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
Not to be TOO paranoid but does anyone else get the sense that all these big fires MAY be the work of those who desire America's destruction.
Several categories logically come to mind: Radical islamists (native born or illegals ala the Fort Dix crew!), illegal hispanics angry that we MAY be finally waking up to the need to staunch the flow north. Add in the nutso arsonists, careless campers/smokers, general home-grown malcontents, etc. and you can see that the list of prospects is quite large.
Look, it IS very dry in all these locations but if they ARE being set by our enemies, they're smart enough to NOT try to set them during monsoon season.
These things are tying up huge amounts of finite resources and manpower and -- with some sort of crude delay device -- the perpetrators have very little risk of being caught.
I guess time will tell.
But IF some pattern sets up here and evidence comes in to that effect, I'm afraid the "authorities" and most of the MSM WON'T tell.
I think many of these fires are just from careless a**holes tossing cigarettes out the car window.
But have you ever noticed that at certain times of the day, it gets really dark and there are fewer cars on the street? It's like everyone's hiding, doing something, plotting something...
I don’t believe in conspiracies, but there are a lot of people behind them.........
In Florida the biggest culprit in wildfires is usually lightning. However, right now we’re not having many storms, so I’d suspect it’s either cigarette tossers or idiots that insist on burning brush outside on a dry, windy day.
The wildfires in Georgia were started by 12 and 16 yr. old.
Yes, yes — I, too, have noticed that.
Do you suppose they’re planning the fires for tomorrow?
By jove, I think you may be on to something.
Have you contacted the FBI??
Gee, that didn't take long. Blame the smokers- thats it. In reality, it's highly IMPROBABLE for a cigarette tossed out the window of a car going 60 mph to land 30 feet away in the grass and start a fire.
The butt gets caught in the wind drag of the car and lands on the road.
Now, lets look at the REAL cause. How about blaming the NON-smokers, who drag the overloaded boat and trailer behind their motor home, the person who is so busy whining and complaining about cigarette smoke, he forgets to grease the bearings on the boat trailer wheels, in fact has NEVER greased the bearings in the 5 years he's owned it, but has dipped them in the water 500 times in his quest to get out on the lake and breathe "clean" (outboard motor smoke chocked) air.
Then he speeds home in the rush back to the city sunday evening, leaving a trail of white hot melting wheel bearings behind him which launch themselves into the ditch full of dry grass.
Same goes for overloaded transport trucks, delapitated farm equipment, and poorly maintained hippie mobiles, also speeding home after a weekend of bothering other campers with their noisey bush parties, leaving tons of trash in the bush.
The fire in California was started by a bum smoking a cigarette. Looking at the burn patterns next to the highway every summer shows that trash who throw smoking trash out the car windows start a lot of fires.
“careless a**holes”
They picked up a couple of kids in GA for starting fires yesterday. No doubt, the sons of careless a**holes or libs that will receive not even a slp on the wrists from their parents. After all, it made them feel good, so they did it.
It happens all the time. We had a huge wildfire in Northern Michigan a couple of years ago that was proved to have been caused by a cigarette tossed out of a car. It was witnessed by several people. It was so dry that year that the undergrowth burst into flame within seconds.
While most wildfires are caused by lightning, cigarettes are another common cause.
You seem a bit sensitive on the subject.
As far as liter is concerned, it's NON-smokers who liter, smokers cars usually have piles of garbage in them. They don't toss their fast food wrappers out, in fact they don't eat near as much of it as non-smokers, they smoke a cigarette instead of stopping for that Mc-crap.
Speaking of people tossing lit cigarettes out their car windows, the next time some yahoo throws a lit one on me while I’m behind him on my motorcycle, I need to think of a creative way to “educate” that person.
I would fight for the rights of smokers to smoke just the same as I would fight for gun rights or freedom of speech. However, anyone who tosses a lit cigarette out of a moving car is a careless, stupid a**hole, just the same as if he were shooting out the windows of a moving car. Freedom to smoke is fine, just keep them in your ashtray.
What did they witness? someone tossing a cigarette butt out the window? or a fire starting beside a smoldering cigarette butt on the side of the road?
If it's the later, why didn't they stop and put it out before it turned into a forrest fire? (Not that I can believe someone speeding down the highway even SAW a cigarette butt smoldering along the highway) If it's the former, that is not proof of it causing the fire. Did anyone bother to ask if they saw anyone towing a boat and trailer? I used to smoke, and have never, ever saw a fire start from tossing a butt out the window. not in 35 years travelling the same road day after day. I have seen many a trailer left on the side of the same road because the wheel bearings failed.
I have, see grass fires start from hot metal being ejected from wheel spindles,(several times in fact) and from people pulling over to the side of the road to look at bambi standing at the edge of the woods and igniting the grass from their red hot catyletic converters.
I loved it!!
But actually, has any scientist run a computer model on how often fires happened back in what the ecofanatics considered the good old days when there weren’t many people on earth? There would have still been droughts and lightning and evil insects or diseases killing broad swaths of trees and setting up perfect conditions for BIG wildfires. Wonder how much CO2 was released by those fires or when tar pits, oil seeps or coal outcrops caught fire?
Yes - they SAW the cigarette tossed out of the car window, saw it land and saw the grass immediately burst into flame. It was extremely dry - within seconds there was a huge fire, way to big for someone to try to stamp out with their feet. The driver admitted to tossing the cigarette and was ticketed.
Just because you and I have driven the same road for years and never saw it happens does not mean it hasn't happened in other places.
I've never won the lottery. Does that mean that the lottery has never been won? (your logic)
The problem we have now is a hyper-competitive 24-hour national media machine that must be fed with only the most dire and breathless tragedies.
Wildfires are the life-threatening emergency du jour.
Word to the wise, Florida needs a fleet of airdrop tankers to control these wildfires, now and in the future. This happens regularly in Florida and other places where fuel load builds fast because of the quick grow undergrowth.
There were a few nuts, but by and large, mother nature did the deeds.
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