Tories storm out of meeting on sharing energy with U.S

canada,com ^ | May 11, 2007 | Kelly Patterson

[doc30]

I have to agree with the Liberal party on this one. Why should the Canadian Conservative government guarantee an energy supply to the U.S. when it won’t do the same for Canada? This is an issue that will resonate with Canadians.

[kerryusama04]

Still waiting for your balanced, comprehensive position on the NAU....

[Marysecretary]

Hmm, so he took his ball and went home.

[ckilmer]

The Bush Administration has gone off the deep end with NAU.’

Sorry, I don’t buy the fringe view concerning NAU.
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The NAU is the fringe. There’s a lot of guys out there who are going to find their careers sidelined for getting onboard that boat. Its fortunate for many that their careers are mostly done.

[Badeye]

“As a matter of policy, any sovereign nation should want to be as independent on foreign supplies of strategic resources as it possibly can be. That’s just prudent, for any number of reasons.
For example, if conditions warrant, it enables your diplomats to tell a neighboring country’s diplomats to go soak their heads.”

Its a nice theory, but as you and I both know, its unworkable as things stand today. Personally, I would have launched a decade long ‘crash program’ along the lines of the Manhatten Project or Apollo with the goal of a viable alternative energy source.

[Badeye]

Reread my comments is the best advice I can give you.

[Marysecretary]

Don’t be...

[Badeye]

“The NAU is the fringe. There’s a lot of guys out there who are going to find their careers sidelined for getting onboard that boat. Its fortunate for many that their careers are mostly done.”

Like who?

[kerryusama04]

It is bizarre that we who espouse America first (USA) are labeled protectionist. As if that is a bad thing to be. what really blows my mind is W talking about importing Ethanol. It's like he is some kind of spoiled rich guy (John Vietnam Kerry comes to mind) that simply has to import everything. I wonder how many acres of US corn AF1 flew over on the way to Brazil?

[hedgetrimmer]

Its a nice theory, but as you and I both know, its unworkable as things stand today while globalists run the government.

[Badeye]

Thats supposed to mean something too me?

[kerryusama04]

You’re really convincing me here. Another couple informative and educational posts like this and I’ll be sure to come around to the benefits of mortgaging our National Security so Xiang the 12 year old chinese laborer can make 12 cents an hour while our southern black population hangs out on the roofs of the gubmint houses waiting for a ride from the USCG.

[Oberon]

Its a nice theory, but as you and I both know, its unworkable as things stand today.

Yes. That means it's in Canada's best interest to change the way things stand.

[Badeye]

‘Yes. That means it’s in Canada’s best interest to change the way things stand.’

I’d say its in both countries best interest.

[thackney]

talking about importing Ethanol

We have been importing ethanol longer the G.W. Bush has been president.

Ethanol Imports and the Caribbean Basin Initiative
www.gulfethanolinc.com/docs/RS21930.pdf

I wonder how many acres of US corn AF1 flew over on the way to Brazil?

Corn does not become ethanol without a processing plant. Current plants are running at maximum capacity and many new ones are being built. This still does not reach the demand for ethanol with the current government mandates.

[AuntB]

"It's shocking the extent to which the Conservative party will go to cover up information about the SPP," says NDP MP Peter Julian, who also sits on the committee.

Afterall, we do have a lot in common with Canada....they even think this SPP is crappola.

[doc30]

Corn does not become ethanol without a processing plant. Current plants are running at maximum capacity and many new ones are being built. This still does not reach the demand for ethanol with the current government mandates.

And corn cannot cost effectively be processed into ethanol without substatial government subsidies. If ethanol production were not subsidized, it would cost 3-4 times it's current price. It has to be subsidized because ethanol production from oil is very cheap. Without the subsidies, we would still have oil dependence, but for ethanol instead of gasoline.

[texastoo]

Nothing you cite here has anything to do with energy being sold by Canada to the United States. I’m concerned about our dependence on China for wheatglutton as much as anybody, due to my dogs, and my concern they might be screwing up the food you and I consume as well.

Canada, Menu Foods, has nothing to do with China? By the way, the NWO calls it interdependency. Like I said, we will have to wait 5 years to find out if there is relevancy about energy being sold to the U.S. by Canada.

[thackney]

I am not in favor of the subsidies. I believe use of ethanol should not be favored over any other domestically produced fuel.

I believe you are mistaken about ethanol being produced from petroleum.

[freeforall]

The “socialists” world-wide, do not want public debate on their agenda.

Free people have a right to trade.