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The Spanish male DNA haplogroup is 90% R1b just like 90% of the Irish males and 68% of all other European males.
1 posted on 05/11/2007 4:02:03 PM PDT by blam
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GGG Ping.


2 posted on 05/11/2007 4:03:12 PM PDT by blam
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Asterix and Obelisk ping!
3 posted on 05/11/2007 4:09:53 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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DONANA NATIONAL PARK

4 posted on 05/11/2007 4:42:16 PM PDT by ricks_place
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“Yet new evidence has now emerged, with electro-magnetic tests indicating that the area may have experienced long dry periods, according to El Pais.”

I wonder if they will claim this was due to Global Cooling or Global Warming!


5 posted on 05/11/2007 4:59:58 PM PDT by georgiarat
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Thanks Blam.

There is no reason to think Tartessos was in Iberia anyway, although decades have been spent looking for something to label as "Tartessian", and the occasional find (which is remarkable for its resemblance to artifacts from places like Italy, Greece, Carthage, or Phoenicia) hasn't contributed to the solution to a problem which is a modern invention.

I'll be convinced when someone discovers an authentic "welcome to Tartessos" inscription outside the ruin of some pre-Roman town.

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7 posted on 05/11/2007 5:31:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 10, 2007.)
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Sacred Precincts: A Tartessian Sanctuary in Ancient Spain
Archaeology Odyssey (via Web Archive) | December 2003 | by Sebasti·n Celestino and Carolina L?-Ruiz
Posted on 12/12/2004 12:20:39 AM EST by SunkenCiv
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8 posted on 05/11/2007 5:38:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 10, 2007.)
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The Histories
by Herodotus
tr by George Rawlinson

Book I, Clio
Now the Phocaeans were the first of the Greeks who performed long voyages, and it was they who made the Greeks acquainted with the Adriatic and with Tyrrhenia, with Iberia, and the city of Tartessus. The vessel which they used in their voyages was not the round-built merchant-ship, but the long penteconter. On their arrival at Tartessus, the king of the country, whose name was Arganthonius, took a liking to them. This monarch reigned over the Tartessians for eighty years, and lived to be a hundred and twenty years old. He regarded the Phocaeans with so much favour as, at first, to beg them to quit Ionia and settle in whatever part of his country they liked. Afterwards, finding that he could not prevail upon them to agree to this, and hearing that the Mede was growing great in their neighbourhood, he gave them money to build a wall about their town, and certainly he must have given it with a bountiful hand, for the town is many furlongs in circuit, and the wall is built entirely of great blocks of stone skilfully fitted together. The wall, then, was built by his aid.
Book IV, Melpomene
...a Samian vessel, under the command of a man named Colaeus, which, on its way to Egypt, was forced to put in at Platea... They themselves quitted the island; and, anxious to reach Egypt, made sail in that direction, but were carried out of their course by a gale of wind from the east. The storm not abating, they were driven past the Pillars of Hercules, and at last, by some special guiding providence, reached Tartessus. This trading town was in those days a virgin port, unfrequented by the merchants. The Samians, in consequence, made by the return voyage a profit greater than any Greeks before their day, excepting Sostratus, son of Laodamas, an Eginetan, with whom no one else can compare. From the tenth part of their gains, amounting to six talents, the Samians made a brazen vessel, in shape like an Argive wine-bowl, adorned with the heads of griffins standing out in high relief. This bowl, supported by three kneeling colossal figures in bronze, of the height of seven cubits, was placed as an offering in the temple of Juno at Samos.

Weasels also are found in the Silphium region, much like the Tartessian. So many, therefore, are the animals belonging to the land of the wandering Libyans, in so far at least as my researches have been able to reach.

10 posted on 05/11/2007 5:53:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 10, 2007.)
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To: blam
Its ruins could lie in the subsoil of a marsh area known as the Marisma de Hinojos in the Donana National Park near Seville

Aha. Stuck in a quagmire with no exit strategy.

17 posted on 05/11/2007 7:31:05 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Place marker


23 posted on 05/12/2007 6:15:41 AM PDT by Don Carlos (MSgt, USAF (Ret))
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