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Carbon Offset Cash-In Questioned
New Scientist ^ | 5-13-2007

Posted on 05/13/2007 8:00:54 AM PDT by blam

Carbon offset cash-in questioned

10:00 13 May 2007
NewScientist.com news service

Some firms are making a killing from schemes designed to curb greenhouse gas emissions, while doing little or nothing in return.

The market in carbon offsets, which allows companies to invest in renewable energy as a way of mitigating their own greenhouse gas emissions - almost doubled in 2006 to $5 billion, the World Bank said on 2 May. According to a recent report in the London-based Financial Times, some of that money is going to oil companies that are simply pumping CO2 into oilfields to extract more oil. They would have done this anyway, so profits from selling the credits go straight into company coffers, with no benefit to new carbon-saving schemes.

"Oil companies are earning credits by doing what they would have done anyway" And under the Kyoto protocol, almost $5 billion will be paid to industries that cut emissions of trifluoromethane - a potent greenhouse gas created in the production of refrigerants. The technology required to cut the gases would cost just $100 million to install (Nature, vol 445, p 595), raising questions regarding the size of the payout.

(Excerpt) Read more at environment.newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carbon; cashin; fraud; offset
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1 posted on 05/13/2007 8:00:57 AM PDT by blam
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Psst. It’s a money making scam, pass it on.


2 posted on 05/13/2007 8:02:18 AM PDT by tioga
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I sense the presence of al oGre!
3 posted on 05/13/2007 8:04:15 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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with no benefit to new carbon-saving schemes.

If it's a scheme - why would you look for a benefit? Unless, of course, you're the person who is collecting the monies from the scheme.

4 posted on 05/13/2007 8:16:10 AM PDT by capydick (What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: blam

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1775002/posts
Trading Hot Air?

Note from thread:

Excerpt:

China appears to be flooding the carbon trading market with certified emission reductions (CERs) or carbon credits, which are priced lower than those of Indian projects. This is because China has much higher volumes of CERs in the world market compared to India. Each CER represents one tonne of carbon dioxide emission reduction.

As per annual averages, China now accounts for 43 per cent of total CERs registered at the UN, while India accounts for 12.11 per cent. Chinese projects can reduce carbon dioxide emissions by about 36.66 million tonnes per year till 2012, while Indian projects would reduce about 10.17 million tonnes.


5 posted on 05/13/2007 8:21:51 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Pet Rock anybody?


6 posted on 05/13/2007 8:25:52 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: tioga
Say it isn’t so- lol
7 posted on 05/13/2007 8:26:43 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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Another plastic-banana, good time rock and roll bottomless pit of cash to benefit Liberals. Their hypocrisy just slays me!


8 posted on 05/13/2007 8:33:21 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
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To: blam

It is like selling land on the moon.


9 posted on 05/13/2007 8:41:00 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: blam

Now, where did I put those damn chia pets???


10 posted on 05/13/2007 8:43:36 AM PDT by magoo70804
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Carbon offsets are the greatest scam since the Nigerian e-mails.


11 posted on 05/13/2007 9:23:40 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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There are large corporations that own large tracts of forests. As everyone knows, forests take in CO2 and convert it to oxygen. By benefit of owning the forest, these companies get the carbon credits. It is clearly a scheme that is designed by do-gooders and for do-gooders only. There is negligible impact on carbon emmissions, even if these were a problem to begin with.


12 posted on 05/13/2007 9:27:24 AM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: The Great RJ
In an aside, did you see the SNL skit called ‘The Spammies’? It featured Kenan Thompson as the Nigerian prince behind those e-mails and some other famous Spam artists. SNL is pretty bad these days but that skit was priceless! I wish Youtube still posted SNL skits. It is definitely worth seeing again.
13 posted on 05/13/2007 9:27:52 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
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I’m selling carbon credits at 1/2 price. No checks please. FReepmail me your account number and pin and I’ll get back to you.


14 posted on 05/13/2007 9:30:56 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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Wall Street is getting involved so you know there is money to be made. Big money.
15 posted on 05/13/2007 9:31:31 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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The Goracle demands that you burn wood offerings to him as Carbon Offsets to prevent Global Warming. Pray to the Goracle!!!


16 posted on 05/13/2007 9:34:47 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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This is a con $cheme for the wealthy to feel less guilty about not following the rules of life that they propose—and would like to ENFORCE—for others.

How can “the common man” ever fall for this crap???

17 posted on 05/13/2007 9:37:39 AM PDT by bannie
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$5 billion is the extent to which some Americans have lost their minds in their fanatical rush to appear “environmentally conscious”.
It’s a fake.


18 posted on 05/13/2007 9:40:40 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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Figures that Al Gore would be at the center of this fraudulent industry.


19 posted on 05/13/2007 9:49:04 AM PDT by Brilliant
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“Some firms are making a killing from schemes designed to curb greenhouse gas emissions,

If you massage this sentence just a bit, there comes a pretty workable description of government (or of Congress):

“They are making a killing...while doing little or nothing in return.”


20 posted on 05/13/2007 10:09:52 AM PDT by DPMD (dpmd)
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