Posted on 05/13/2007 12:39:26 PM PDT by malibu2008
Mr. Giulianis campaign seeking to accomplish the unusual task of persuading Republicans to nominate an abortion rights supporter is eyeing a path to the nomination that would try to de-emphasize the early states in which abortion opponents wield a great deal of influence. Instead they would focus on the so-called mega-primary of Feb. 5, in which voters in states like California, New York and New Jersey are likely to be more receptive to Mr. Giulianis social views than voters in Iowa and South Carolina.
That approach, they said, became more appealing after the Legislature in Florida, another state they said would be receptive to Mr. Giuliani, voted last week to move the primary forward to the end of January. . . .
Mr. Giuliani hinted at what aides said would be his uncompromising position on abortion rights yesterday in Huntsville, Ala., where he was besieged with questions about abortion and his donations to Planned Parenthood. Ultimately, there has to be a right to choose, he said.
Asked if Republicans would accept that, he said, I guess we are going to find out. . . .
Conventional wisdom says he cant win the nomination, said Mike DuHaime, Mr. Giulianis campaign manager . . .
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If Guiliani wins it will only be because enough Democrats vote for him to make up for the number of conservatives who stay home.
In Florida Democrats can’t vote in a Republican primary.
Interesting. We can deduce at least two things from this article.
One. Giuliani himself has made a pact with the New York Times. He promises to back abortion all out; they promise to give him a lot of publicity. Evidently Adam Nagourney, one of their premier liberal propagandists, has been assigned to this task, since he also co-wrote the earlier article.
Two. Giuliani is hoping that he can use liberal newspapers like the times, and no doubt later the major Florida papers, to persuade Democrats to register as Republicans for the primaries.
Rememember that McCain did that in 2000, very successfully, and was leading in the early primaries in places like Detroit, where massive numbers of Democrats switched over to vote for him against Bush. This would require the full cooperation of the left-wing media (which McCain got back then) and also the urban political operators, who would shepherd their flocks to vote in the Republican primaries.
I’d say this is a heads up. In the end it failed for McCain, largely because he overstepped himself in the Bob Jones attack that tried to paint Bush as a Catholic hater. But it could be dangerous. He might very well win in the states with reliable Democrat machines, like Florida, New Jersey, New York.
On the other hand, if Hellery still has competition she isn’t going to want her herds of tame voters to vote in the Republican primary, unless she figures it’s a good way to deprive Obama of the black vote or something of that kind.
Any way you slice it, however, this article is a real heads up to watch out for dirty tricks next spring.
No, but I presume they can switch parties if they do it early enough and someone does the organizing. Or they can bring a lawsuit, which McCain did in New York in 2000. There's more than enough corrupt Florida judges, and SCOFLAw would certainly do whatever the DNC told them.
So I guess Rudy appeals to those in blue states and not in red states?
In other words Rudy appeals to Democrats.
We have to hope that Obama remains viable, so that Democrats can’t be unleashed to re-register. Of course, in the urban areas of the blue states, they might just hand them two ballots anyway.
It should be very entertaining to watch, Guiliani looks like a fish out of water trying to explain his position on Abortions, and yet he cannot bring himself to just say “Yes, abortions should be permitted all the time and I believe that”.
The man has openly declared war on his own party. Dump him!
Of course, nothing prevents a registered voter from changing political affiliation.
Truth be told, I hope this is all has been stuff by early next year when the primary takes place. I hope by then that Fred Thompson has such a commanding lead all the others, including Rootie and McInsane, will back off.
Failure to participate in the Iowa straw poll would be very foolish of Mr. Giuliani, and the GOP nominating someone who failed to participate would also be very foolish. That straw poll is a major fundraiser for the Iowa GOP and puts some cash into the Iowa economy. Any candidate who takes the attitude that he doesn't need to win the poll and refuses to participate is insulting the whole state. He's going to have a very hard time winning Iowa in the general election. While the Giuliani supporters pretend that he'll win 350 electoral votes easily, the truth is that the race will be very close. I don't believe that Mr. Giuliani can win under any circumstances, and writing off Iowa would be a big mistake.
At the same time, Republicans in New Hampshire said yesterday that Mr. Giuliani had been a notably infrequent visitor there, causing annoyance among party activists and speculation that he has given up on the state.
Whether we like it or not, New Hampshire also takes great pride in having the first primary and getting visits from all of the candidates. If Mr. Giuliani writes off the New Hampshire primary, he'll also likely be writing off those three electoral votes. Admittedly, three votes is only three votes, but three electoral votes would have made the difference in 2000.
If this article is accurate, the Giuliani campaign is failing badly. Mitt Romney will be strong in Michigan where his family was prominent politically and where he grew up. He could be strong in Florida because he's close to Jeb Bush. If Giuliani loses Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina, he'll lose that aura of inevitability that his supporters have tried to create. When he loses that, some people who supported him because he seemed a certain winner will look at other candidates. Fred Thompson will win quite a few of the southern states on February 5. If Rudy Giuliani comes out of the February 5 primary as a weak third place, he might as well drop out of the race.
Bill
Rudi has just rejected the entire GOP party so its not real clear to my that any future campaigning plans by him are relevant.
Unless the pro abortion gun grabbing segment of the log cabin republicans is larger than I realize.
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