Posted on 05/14/2007 9:15:48 AM PDT by bedolido
Lost knowledge. Before birth control pills and the rest, only bad girls had unmarried sex and they were usually pregnant then married forthwith.
But--they're your daughters. I find the resistance hysterical. It is not tantamount to passing out condoms--it's a preparation for the likelihood that a young woman, virgin bride or no, is going to encounter an infected male.
(OT)Hey, freepmail... about that thread 60 Taliban heading into Texas? That got pulled? What was that all about?
Still, wouldn't be the last vaccine to loose potency over time, and given the genetic variability in this country one would suppose they've tracked a scientifically selected and stratified sample of 1,000 or more girls, right?
However, if the purpose is to protect girls who are going to fall into the category of those who attempt to defy statistics, we'd certainly want them vaccinated at the correct age, and as many times thereafter as possible ~ weekly if need be.
None of this justifies forced vaccination though. It's not like the girls are going to be spreading measles with their mere presence eh.
Men don’t get cervical cancer, but they do get adult-onset RRP, head and neck cancer, penile cancer, anal cancer, mouth and throat cancer, and genital warts. And they can pass this lovely virus to their wives, and their unborn children. HPV is not “benign” to anyone.
This vaccine is nothing more than window dressing for the liberal lack of morals and personal responsibility that has been destroying this country for the past 50 years. If girls were abstinant there is a 100% chance they would never get the virus. Period. This virus is nothing more than a liberal version of abstinance to avoid that kind of cancer, which ONLY comes from sexual activity. And if you think that girls under the age of 14 should be getting it then you're kinda sick. It protects against no other STDs and it's perverse that girls that age are being offered something like that, which does encourage sexual activity, when it's not even known if the vaccine will do damage to such young girls. The fact that people are even arguing in favor of this anti-morality drug is obscene.
On this site? Anti-business, anti-innovation, anti-health propaganda from the haberdashers of tinfoil and, I am halfway certain, paid agents of GlaxoSmithKline. (Keeping my tinfoil handy.)
None of this justifies forced vaccination though. It's not like the girls are going to be spreading measles with their mere presence eh.
And it's not like anyone is "forcing" these vaccinations upon anyone. No one is holding a gun to parents' heads. Just a waiver -- and I'm sure the school will even provide the pen to sign it.
Throat cancer
You can choose it for yourself but not me or mine, I won’t pay for this vaccine and you should not be so willing to either. This is not a cure all for cervical cancer, the claims are very misleading.
Human Papilloma Virus is associated with cervical cancer, vulvar and vaginal cancers, penile cancer, anal cancer and oropharyngeal cancer, particularly base of tongue and tonsils. This puts both sexes at risk.
Wow, TWO outright lies in a single headline! The media are really outdoing themselves.
Even before this vaccine is widely available there do seem to be all too many demanding FORCED VACCINATIONS.
Makes me wonder what their interest is in all those little girls. After all, even though you might be a public health worker and have everyone's interest at heart, just what makes this "special" for little girls?
I’m waiting on the FDA response, not what folks here on this site might say ~ heck fire, they’ll say just about anything. FDA, although sometimes not lucid at all, is usually more circumspect.
Do you really think it is cheaper to vaccinate millions (at $360 a pop) than to treat the few thousand cases that arise? Do the math...
Latest CDC data shows about 11000 cases of cervical cancer annually. The cost of treatment has been estimated from $7000 - $24000 per woman. That is an annual cost of $264 million, at most.
Within the age group of 10-14, the census bureau reports approxmiately 10.6 million girls. Therefore, each year about 2.1 million girls would need to be vaccinated. That is a cost of $762 million.
We could treat all women (not just the poor) for one-third of the costs of the vaccine. Sorry, you can’t justify this on costs...
Sex is a fact of life, thankfully. Now I’m not saying 11, 12, 13 year olds should be having sex, but the hormones are strong and sometimes they do. So what.. you think they should get cancer for it?
And what about instances of rape?
>>Conservatives do not want to pay for this vaccine, anyone is free to get the vaccine, we just do not desire to pay for this.<<
The economic return on vaccines tends to be quite high.
Various studies including one by the Harvard School of Public Health have found that productivity gains from vaccine investment equal that of primary education (an average of about 18%)and when avoided medical costs and reduced welfare are included the return far exceeds any other program.
So I don’t really think there is a good economic argument against vaccines. From a strictly financial point of view, we’d be better off to cut back on anything, even highway or food safety to pay for vaccines.
Actually, do we really want every girl given the shot before we have a really good study on side effects?
If parents what their little girls to get the vaccine, let them go to their own doctor for it, and keep the government out of it.
You don’t have to be promiscuous to get HPV. Hoping that this isn’t TMI, but I’ve had a total of 3 partners my entire life, have been married for 22 years this month, and I have it. My now-H and I both came down with the symptoms shortly before we were engaged, since it can lie dormant for a long time in the body, we have no way of knowing which one of us gave it to the other. And he didn’t have a high number of partners either, for a guy who was in the service and overseas before we met. It only takes one encounter from one person to get it. You don’t have to be a ‘tramp’ to get any STD, just one unlucky enounter.
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