Rudy is keeping his jewels to himself lately
Posted on 05/15/2007 9:59:24 AM PDT by Omega Man II
Runnin' Scared Diamonds are Forever
Rudy Giuliani downplays the value of his jewelry collection
by Wayne Barrett
May 15th, 2007 10:38 AM
Down in Huntsville, Alabama, last week, Rudy Giuliani was forced to answer questions about the gaudy World Series rings he's been wearing on the presidential campaign trail. "I paid precisely what anyone else would pay," he insisted, adding that he didn't get any of them until after he left office. He was responding to a Voice story ("The Yankees' Clean-up Man," May 9–15) that charged him with taking the rings while in office and failing to disclose them as gifts—both of which are violations of law that could still be prosecuted. He branded the Voice's revelations "a joke," though it was his contention that he paid full value for them—$2,500 for the 1996 ring in 2004 and $4,500 apiece for 1998, 1999, and 2000 rings in 2003—that had much of the sports-memorabilia world laughing.
The Yankees haven't been very forthcoming about the core value of their rings, but the Chicago Tribune reported last year that the 2005 White Sox ring "might have cost as much as $20,000 to make if recent World Series rings by the same manufacturer are any indication." The Boston Herald put the appraised value of the Red Sox 2004 ring—nothing but the jewels—at $16,300. The Anaheim Angels had their 2002 ring appraised at $15,000. And Jerry McNeal, the ring expert for the Baseball Hall of Fame, says the 2003 Florida Marlins ring cost $46,000 to make. The New York Times says the Yankees once estimated the cost of one of their rings at $8,000. But the price rose to more than $10,000 by 2000, according to both a Yankee source and a memorabilia expert, Pete Siegel, whose store, Gotta Have It Collectibles, has actually sold sports items to Giuliani.
The three-karat, 2000 ring weighed more than an ounce, had 22 diamonds and 34.5 grams of gold, and featured three subway cars etched above a façade of Yankee Stadium, representing both the Subway Series victory over the Mets and three consecutive championships. David Bernstein, the Yankee's director of hospitality, told the Poughkeepsie Journal that the team drastically cut the number of people getting the 2000 ring, limiting it to only 10 to 15 people who worked at the stadium, but still giving one to Giuliani. With 25 or so executives who'd received it in the past denied it in 2000, the exclusivity added to its value, just as the end-of-the-drought breakthrough represented by the 1996 ring boosted its worth.
Spencer Lader, who regularly appears on the Yankee television station as a memorabilia buyer and expert, says he paid $18,000 for a ring owned by Arthur Richman, an obscure Yankee executive. Lader, like a half dozen other experts, says all Yankee rings have "an intrinsic value" beyond the sum of their parts and regardless of whose name is inscribed in them. "They commemorate a significant sports event," says Lader, adding that there is no way that Giuliani insured any of his rings for as little as $2,500. Dick Williams, an ex-manager of other teams who was a consultant to the Yankees when he won his ring, sold it at auction for $34,787.
Giuliani's name obviously adds much more value to the rings than Richman's or Williams's. The Voice story cited three memorabilia experts who put the combined market value of the ex-mayor's rings at a minimum of $200,000, and a fourth who said $100,000. Giuliani responded by telling reporters that he shouldn't have to pay what a collector might, a nice way of saying he was entitled to a breathtaking discount. But even subtracting what his name contributes to the market price, the Yankees, pushed by two Times reporters who wrote stories in recent days, couldn't offer any examples of others who bought these not-for-sale rings at anything approximating Rudy's price. The New York City Conflicts of Interest Board (COIB) has ruled that city employees "may accept a discount" from a vendor for the employee's "private use," but only if "the discount is available generally to all government employees."
Of course, that ruling is only applicable to the rings if Giuliani received them, or was promised them, while still a city employee. The Yankees are straining to support Giuliani on the price question, but they're not helping him on the pivotal issue of the timing of when he got the rings. Alice McGillion, the team spokeswoman, says the team has no record of when Giuliani received them, and won't answer questions about whether they were all made for him while he was in office. The Voice story established that he received the 1996 ring in 1997, around the time the players did, and the other three in 2001. Both the COIB and the NYC Department of Investigations would have the jurisdiction to investigate that, as would the Manhattan and Bronx District Attorneys. None will answer questions about any possible ongoing investigation.
The New York State Lobbying Commission, which levied one of its largest fines ever on the Yankees for tickets it gave to public officials, would also have the authority to examine whether the team accurately disclosed its dealings with Giuliani when it settled with the commission in December 2003. It issued subpoenas against the Yankees at that time and those subpoenas could simply be renewed. The commission can only examine gifts to Giuliani that occurred while he was in office. Its initial probe went back to July 2001, which is precisely when the 2000 ring was finally presented to the players.
But the rings, the tickets, the jackets, the caps, and the autographed balls—all detailed in last week's story—weren't the only Yankees loot that Giuliani collected.
He also has a Joe DiMaggio uniform. When Avenue magazine did an extended photo shoot and cover story entitled "At Home with Judith Giuliani" in November 2003, it ran a picture of what it called "the framed, glass-encased shirt of another Giuliani idol, Joe DiMaggio." The Number 5 shirt with the signature "Best Wishes, Joe DiMaggio" hangs in Rudy's den. Judith told the magazine: "When I put that up, Rudy smiled because he knew it was going to be a room that he'd enjoy just as I promised." Avenue staff writer Jill Brooke says that Nathan-Giuliani led her to believe the shirt was authentic. In fact, it's a replica. When Giuliani received the shirt in June 2002 at the Joe DiMaggio Award Gala, sponsored by Xaverian High School in Brooklyn, in June 2002, Daily Variety reported it was "the Number 5 jersey worn by DiMaggio in the 1951 World Series," the Yankee Clipper's final games. But Xaverian principal Sal Ferrara told the Voice: "I gave Giuliani a certificate to say what it was, so he definitely knew it was a replica."
Morris Engelberg, who manages the DiMaggio estate and donated the replica to the school, still estimates that it, plus the Tiffany crystal DiMaggio bat Giuliani was given at the same event, were worth about $25,000. The original jersey sold for $195,000 at Christie's. Engelberg, who sits on the Xaverian committee and goes to the annual dinner, couldn't understand why the school gave the shirt to Giuliani rather than auction it off for the disabled kids who are the beneficiaries of the event. Indeed, Ferrara had described the shirt in earlier news stories as one of the principal objects donated by Engelberg that the school planned to auction, but says he decided to give it to Giuliani instead. "When I gave them the pieces," Engelberg recalled, "I said to Ferrara, 'Auction all these pieces off to raise money for scholarships.' I'm not going to make an issue of it."
The Yankees are only tangentially connected to the Xaverian event. The team makes a significant annual donation and the Yankees' president presented the award in 2000—the first year of the DiMaggio gala.
And this is interesting to anyone why?
I know, right?
Much ado about nothing... probably a news article meant to show how ‘rich’ Rudy is, and thus, keep the class warfare line going...
Just think of all the greenhouses gases that went into the atmosphere just to mine the materials for that jewelry. :)
Which of the major presidential candidate are not millionaires?
Edwards and Gore are living in pagodas and the Clintons socking millions away from Bubba’s mouth openings while living in a Terry MCAwful-funded house and reclining on White House-pifered antiques.
Bet carbon credit income or zinc mine returns could buy some nice rocks as well.
Reality:
(1) Giuliani paid the manufacturer's full list price for the rings.
(2) The Yankees new stadium is one of the few stadiums in America being built entirely with money from private investors without public grants.
(3) Giuliani detractors argue that the contracts Giuliani negotiated included public grants and that Bloomberg repudiated the contracts and that's why the Yankees aren't using public money - no thanks to Giuliani.
in reality, Bloomberg did not repudiate the contracts but simply exercised the city's escape clause that was written into the contract by Giuliani.
Really? I didn't know. I'd have thought a pagoda would be a damned uncomfortable place to live. At least they'll be getting in shape from all the stairs.
Did you mean perhaps that they were living in palaces?
-ccm
He treasures those World Series rings far more than he's treasured any of his wedding rings.
Rudy is a born and raised Yankees fan - a total die-hard.
I’m surprised he doesn’t wear a Yankee pin 24/7.
He is a fan of passion when it comes to the Yankees.
34.5 grams of gold goes for about $747 dollars - or about $350 in 2000.
Three carats of diamonds divided into 22 individual diamonds results in diamonds of approximately one-eighth of a carat apiece.
You can buy 10-karat gold earrings from Zale's with two one-seventh carat diamonds for $99.99.
So even though the Zales earrings come with more diamond and some gold thrown into the mix, let's say that each of those one-eighth carat diamonds cost $100.
22 diamonds plus $350 of gold equals $2,550 in raw cost of goods.
Add in a 57% markup for workmanship and you have $4,000.
Sounds quite plausible to me.
LOL! Very well put.
On a less amusing note, he values those rings more than he values the lives of unborn children.
>>>Which of the major presidential candidate are not millionaires?
Duncan Hunter
Probably Ron Paul
How about Sam Brownback and Tom Tancredo?
Now it’s just getting silly.
Rudy showing off some of his jewelry collection and a nice mink stole....fabulous
Those rings will either be donated to a museum after his death or buried with him in his casket.
Or maybe left to his son if they ever patch up their relationship.
He ain't selling them.
You have a source for that? Because no story I've read has suggested that to be the case. Nobody can find an example of a World Series ring being MADE for the prices he says he paid for them. Nobody knows when he bought them, whether it's in 1997 as the report says, or 2003 as he said.
But if Giuliani bought these in 2003, it's obvious he didn't pay the right price for them as the jewels and gold in them would make them worth more than what he paid.
So where did you find a report that says he paid full price? OTher than of course his own statement. Obviously HE says he bought them at full price.
Even this story admits that the Yankees' front office has said that they sold the rings to Giuliani at the price they paid the manufacturer.
But if Giuliani bought these in 2003, it's obvious he didn't pay the right price for them as the jewels and gold in them would make them worth more than what he paid.
Not even close.
See post 12.
I’ve heard of college class rings that cost more than this, and they weren’t as ornate as the rings.
People don’t mind money so much, they hate that a public official uses his official office, where he represents the people, in order to enrich himself, or get things that the rest of us can’t.
The ONLY reason Rudy has these rings is because the people of New York elected him as their representative. Nobody else is allowed to buy these things “at cost”, or under cost.
That’s what the “big deal” is. Getting personally rich off of your public service, or getting special treatment not available to others. Like having a piece donated for an auction given to you for no reason other than to curry your favor as “representative of the people”.
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