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California-Sized Area of Ice Melts in Antarctica
LiveScience.com ^ | May 15, 2007 | By LiveScience Staff

Posted on 05/15/2007 3:11:17 PM PDT by Islander7

Warm temperatures melted an area of western Antarctica that adds up to the size of California in January 2005, scientists report. {That is the middle of summer in the southern hemisphere.}

Satellite data collected by the scientists between July 1999 and July 2005 showed clear signs that melting had occurred in multiple distinct regions, including far inland and at high latitudes and elevations, where melt had been considered unlikely.

---SNIP---

Evidence of melting was found up to 560 miles inland from the open ocean, farther than 85 degrees south (about 310 miles from the South Pole) and higher than 6,600 feet above sea level.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antartica; globalwarming; junkscience
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This is the nut of the article; the very last line.

"...No further melting has been detected through March 2007...."

So, for nearly 2 years there has been no furhter melting. Why isn't that stated in the title for the article? (I know the answer, thanks.)
1 posted on 05/15/2007 3:11:19 PM PDT by Islander7
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To: Islander7

If you go to the article and see the picture of the yellow and red “melting” sections it makes me wonder what the rest of that giant mass was doing.

Was is stagnant or was there more freezing, snowpack, whatever? It wasn’t melting we know because it all would have been yellow and red and high-lighted for us.


2 posted on 05/15/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by Domandred
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To: Islander7
Warm Temperatures melt an area the size of the Great Plains and Rocky Mountains at least a couple of times every year.

Thank God.

3 posted on 05/15/2007 3:15:04 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Islander7
A related article linked from this one laments that Antarctica melts 36 cubic miles of ice per year, by comparison to Los Angeles which uses 1 cubic mile of water per year.

Conveniently ignored is the fact that Antarctica has roughly SIX MILLION CUBIC MILES OF ICE.

4 posted on 05/15/2007 3:17:59 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Islander7

It’s too bad we can’t get the liberals in California to melt off the end of the country.


5 posted on 05/15/2007 3:18:46 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Islander7
Oh for more fun do this. Check out the "Top 10 Surprising Results of Global Warming", link at the bottom of the article. Number 3 cracked me up big time as an ameteur geologist.

...the Alps and other mountain ranges have experienced a gradual growth spurt over the past century or so thanks to the melting of the glaciers atop them. For thousands of years, the weight of these glaciers has pushed against the Earth's surface, causing it to depress. As the glaciers melt, this weight is lifting, and the surface slowly is springing back. Because global warming speeds up the melting of these glaciers, the mountains are rebounding faster.

Neat theory, but how about them plate techtonics.

6 posted on 05/15/2007 3:21:38 PM PDT by Domandred
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To: Islander7
If global warming can destroy life on our planet the US should weaponise it in anticipation of future inter world wars.

7 posted on 05/15/2007 3:23:33 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Domandred

so, does the first guy that climbed the Matterhorn get an asterisk by his name cause it wasn’t as tall then as it is now ?


8 posted on 05/15/2007 3:25:41 PM PDT by stylin19a (It's easier to get up at 6:00 AM to play golf than at 10:00 to mow the yard)
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To: Islander7

This is the part that gets me. It’s another article presenting evidence of warming, which very few people doubt exists.

What the article is not is a presentation of how man made emmissions is causing it. This is a very different assertion; but when left unsaid, the general public assumes all warming discussion is about man made triggers. On it goes.

C2K


9 posted on 05/15/2007 3:31:48 PM PDT by cicero2k
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I heard this morning that the average temp in/at Antarctica is -30.

Now, for any ice to melt there has to be a 62 degree increase in temperature for a hell of a lot longer than a year. It would seem to me that any melting temperature would probably have to be even higher to overcome any ambient air temperature (without wind).

If there is wind, an even higher temp would have to be reached and maintained for any signifigant melting to occur.

I'm no climatologist, and I don't even play one on the internet ... but I did pay attention in 6th grade science class.

10 posted on 05/15/2007 3:41:31 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: knarf
Geothermal?
11 posted on 05/15/2007 3:45:13 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("Please insert witty tag-line here")
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To: R_Kangel
If it is geothermal, it ain't our fault ... right?

From the article;

"Water from the melted snow can penetrate cracks and the ice, lubricating the continent's ice sheets, sending them toward the ocean faster and raising sea levels, the scientists said."

I thought the ice caps were floaters ... and if so, I had to wait until the 7th grade for the water displacement experiment.

Calling all mathameticians !

12 posted on 05/15/2007 3:51:44 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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I thought the ice caps were floaters ...

The ARCTIC is cap is a floater. The ANTARCTIC icecap and the Greenland ice cap are up on land.

13 posted on 05/15/2007 3:54:30 PM PDT by null and void (The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.)
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To: cicero2k
Global warming is just a liberal/socialist excuse to increase the size and power of the government and lead us on the road to socialism. Socialism doesn't work as evidenced by the USSR, Cuba , North Korea, Eastern Europe, Cambodia's Killing fields, inner citie in U.S. etc.

Who says global warming exists in the first place? Government funded "scientists" whose funding would dry up if there were no global warming say it exists.

Antarctica has been cooling so how could there be global warming? Don't the liberals/Socialists say that among the first consequences of global warming is the melting polar ice caps that will drown coastal cities? Antarctica Contradicts The Global Warming Theory:

CHURCHVILLE, VA - In direct contradiction to the global warming theory, a forthcoming study in the prestigious journal Nature says the Antarctic has been cooling for the past 30 years. According to the new Nature paper on Antarctic cooling, “Climate models generally predict amplified warming in the Polar Regions, as observed in Antarctica’s peninsula region over the second half of the 20th century.” However, the researchers found “Antarctic meteorological data demonstrates a new cooling on the Antarctic continent between 1966 and 2000, particularly during summer and autumn.” The researchers say that the McMurdo Dry Valleys, for example, have cooled about 0.7 degrees Celsius per decade during this period. The authors conclude, “Continental Antarctic cooling, especially the seasonality of cooling, poses challenges to models of climate and ecosystem change.” Another new study, in the journal Science, says the Antarctic ice sheet is thickening, rather than thinning as had been previously claimed. Some researcher had even predicted that the Antarctic ice sheet would be completely gone in 4000 years, triggering a major sea level rise.

14 posted on 05/15/2007 3:56:43 PM PDT by rurgan ("Government is not the solution to our problems.Government is the Problem" - President Reagan)
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To: knarf

Thank you. I’ve been saying this for years. WTF difference is one degree going to make at the poles, if it’s already minus 30. Logically it would take a global temp increase of about a hundred degrees to melt them completely. Amazing how there have never been glaciers that cracked and broke off in all of the earth’s history.


15 posted on 05/15/2007 3:59:45 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: rurgan

I agree ... I was just trying to apply some (what I thought was .. ) one plus one equals two logic to the sicheeation.


16 posted on 05/15/2007 4:00:30 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Islander7
California-Sized Area of Ice Melts in Antarctica

Any hope that a California-sized chuck of water will engulf California?

17 posted on 05/15/2007 4:06:17 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: knarf
If there is wind, an even higher temp would have to be reached and maintained for any signifigant melting to occur.

Not true. Wind will evaporate ice even if that wind is very cold. The air merely has to have low humidity.

I know some guys who dug a C-130 out of the ice in Antarctica. They used things much like leaf blowers as excavating equipment.

18 posted on 05/15/2007 4:11:35 PM PDT by GingisK
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Amazing how there have never been glaciers that cracked and broke off in all of the earth’s history.

I asked our resident liberal here at work about this. I asked, "If there were glaciers 14,000 years ago and they have been receding ever since how did man cause this?"

He got up without a word and left the room.

19 posted on 05/15/2007 4:11:56 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: knarf
I thought the ice caps were floaters ... and if so, I had to wait until the 7th grade for the water displacement experiment.

Nope. Antarctica is a regular run-of-the-mill continent with ice piled on top.

20 posted on 05/15/2007 4:13:29 PM PDT by GingisK
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