BIN LADEN'S FATWA (Why Ron Paul was Factually Correct) (UBL cited Iraq in 1996 Declaration of War)

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[MitchellC]

While it's true that we were not attacked simply because they disagreed with our concept of freedom, it's also true that we'd probably have been attacked on 9/11 even if Saddam's forces had not been kicked out of Kuwait in 91, etc.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is either ignorant or gullible as hell, and Ron Paul's apparent (I didn't hear the debate) belief that "involvement" in the region is the driving force behind their hatred of the West is far more off base and objectionable than the Bush/Guiliani line.

Islam has traditionally taught that believers have a responsibility to spread the religion by force, period. To that extent, Al Qaida is fully in agreement with orthodox Islam. Ron Paul may have been "factually correct" that Osama gave Iraq as a specific reason, but if he actually believes they wouldn't be attacking us otherwise then he is far from being fit enough to serve as CIC.

[Rodney King]

In case you haven't noticed, they attack and have attacked anyone who doesn't believe their Islamic caliphate.

So why do they attack Saudi Arabia and Pakistan?

[cookcounty]

Ron Paul. The America-haters’ favorite Republican. And he’s not embarrassed.

[Rodney King]

In case you haven't noticed, they attack and have attacked anyone who doesn't believe their Islamic caliphate

Of the 150 or so countries that don't believe in the caliphate, how many has Al Qaeda attacked? Not many.

[jrooney]

Go retard Ron! Sounds just like Nancy Pelosi on foreign polic. Wooohooo! When the liberal dummies love this guy, it sure says much!

[Shermy]

“I don’t buy the cultural changes argument;”

Read Qutb for one. I think you will change your mind.

“If that were the case, they’d be slaughtering European Atheist heathens by the truckload.”

They’re too busy after a bigger enemy — apostate Shi’ites.

“Hell, that’s where their cells are based out of.”

European and American “Religious Refugee” immigration rules actually privileged the most radical types. Your comment has much truth to it. Gaddafi cracked if the US wanted to be more effective it should bomb London.

[Arcy]

hey JerseyMike,
You need to relocate away from all of the nuclear waste dumps in your state and breath some clean air. I would also recommend you have the galvanized water pipes in your home be brought up to code. Clearly you’re ingesting poison into your system. When Ron Paul takes the side of Allen Colmbs and vise versa then “Houston, we have a problem”.

[jackieaxe]

Still, as a Ron Paul supporter, it was not a good night for Ron Paul.

[Sam Gamgee]

Ron Paul is a useful idiot for Islam - part of the Blame America first crowd. He actually does blame America - hence he said what would we do if China occupied us? He doesn’t see the Islamists as being at fault at all. How much clearer does he need to be?

[Constitution Day]

Why Ron Paul was Factually Correct (UBL cited Iraq in 1996 Declaration of War)

One can be factually/legally/technically correct and still be a kooky loser.

See also: pedestrians who aren't paying attention, believing the bus will never hit them.

Technically, they have the right-of-way.
Unfortunately, they still get run over.

[cookcounty]

"Al-Qaida has absolutely ZERO ability to topple the United States or permanently damage our way of life.

If we are attacked after withdrawing, we will retaliate.

If they set a nuke off in one of our cities they will not permanently damage our way of life?

And you may have noticed, threat of retaliation is meaningless to Al-Qaeda.

[jackieaxe]

Which is exactly why he is not our candidate. I can’t vote for a guy with two first names.

So you wouldn't vote for Duncan Hunter?

[Lakeshark]

You are truly being ignorant. I gave a short list of who they have attacked. It's a lot longer then what I listed, but hey....don't let facts get in the way of your support of Ron Paul now.

They do hate everyone, and if you don't understand that, you may be as ignorant as Ron Paul. Wait.....you're one of his supporters......

*Slapping forehead*

[NeoCaveman]

So why do they attack Saudi Arabia and Pakistan?

They aren't radical enough for the Islamists.

[Star Traveler]

"Remember_Salamis" said --

Tonight, Ron Paul stated that al-Qaida attacked us because we are involved in the Middle East. Below I have posted Bin Laden's declaration of War against the United States, made in 1996. He cites (1) US Involvement in the Middle East, (2) Palestine, and (3) Sanctions on Iraq as reasons why he has declared war.

Well, that sound about right to me. I'm not sure why some people are jumping on that statement. Is there a problem with it?

Regards,
Star Traveler

[Arcy]

I’ve been waiting for the folks here to catch up on the fact that Ron Paul is not our candidate. Hillary would eat his lunch in a presidential debate.

[liberte]

Because they are not Islamic governments. Saudi Arabia is a monarchy, and Pakistan is a military dictatorship. OBL and his ilk think the only acceptable dictators are people like themselves: devout, homicidal, intolerant, unmerciful followers of the “Religion of Peace”.

[Rodney King]

You are truly being ignorant. I gave a short list of who they have attacked. It's a lot longer then what I listed, but hey....don't let facts get in the way of your support of Ron Paul now. They do hate everyone, and if you don't understand that, you may be as ignorant as Ron Paul. Wait.....you're one of his supporters...... *Slapping forehead*

Huh? You said they attacked everyone who doesn't believe in the caliphate. I simply pointed out that is not even close to being true. so when you say things like "don't let the facts get in the way" I can only assume that you are speaking to someone else or are incapable of logical thought.

[Mr. Jazzy]

This is bullshite and YOU know it.

They looked for a reason to justify their HATE and they CHOOSE that one. Our mere existence ALONE is enough reason for them to want us dead. The R.O.P. is a jealous and power hungry group of tribalists. Ron Paul is naive beyond reason if he TRULY believes what he said, an therefore NOT fit to be President Of The United States Of America. PERIOD.

[Rodney King]

Well, that sound about right to me. I'm not sure why some people are jumping on that statement. Is there a problem with it?

Here at FR, we are very big on taking the arabs at their word that they want to kill us. But when it comes to "why", we assume that they are lying. Or something like that.