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DeMint Statement on Immigration Deal ("I don't care how you try to spin it, this is amnesty.")
DeMint ^ | 5/17/07

Posted on 05/17/2007 1:17:54 PM PDT by bnelson44

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To: street_lawyer
this is what I would call jumping the gun, creating hysteria without knowing what is in the bill.

From the schedule to get this through Congress before Memorial Day, it looks like a lot of people will be voting without knowing what is in the bill.

Immigration is a huge problem, but not a "must handle it this week" crisis. If they wait until July to read it and vote on it, the only problem will be a few thousand more illegals sneaking in. Passing a bad bill in a rush will be vastly worse than that.

On the other hand, I think they want to pass it before anyone has a chance to read, analyze and comment on it. They don't want us to know the details.

21 posted on 05/17/2007 1:32:07 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: SolidWood

“There is still a little glimmer of hope.”

There is zero hope that this, or something worse, won’t be passed into law. The only hope is that those RINO’S responsible for the travesty will be held to account at the polls.


22 posted on 05/17/2007 1:32:17 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: bnelson44

Demint should nail this thing hard...make it clear for what it is for all to see. Sadly, shamefull IMHO, there is little hope that he can keep the Senate from passing it...but if he does his job, the House is a different matter, and there will be time for the people to make it clear that it is not in the Congressmen’s best interest.


23 posted on 05/17/2007 1:32:19 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: napscoordinator

Don’t be so fast - give him a chance - be open.

You WILL be impressed.


24 posted on 05/17/2007 1:32:23 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Gideon Reader
There is an old expression in Hebrew that goes: “Ayn gav bli pigyon” Translated: “No back without a dagger in it.”

Oh, I know that one! By Tony Sopranostein........

25 posted on 05/17/2007 1:32:56 PM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: Jake The Goose

OK. I will go back and read the actual site. I was just so mad to see that and was quick to judge, but truthfully only because of the topic at this moment. I will write back soon.
Thanks!!!


26 posted on 05/17/2007 1:33:40 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: bnelson44

1000 Pages? Should only take one page....”Get the hell out or go to prison.” Don’t seem that hard to me.


27 posted on 05/17/2007 1:34:45 PM PDT by RC2
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To: street_lawyer
this is what I would call jumping the gun, creating hysteria without knowing what is in the bill. I’d like to know how high I am before I jump.

It really looks like they are going to do it this time... nothing is "getting jumped"

" They could come forward right away to claim a probationary card that would let them live and work legally in the U.S."

THAT IS AMNESTY.


28 posted on 05/17/2007 1:36:02 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: napscoordinator
Listen I am with you.

My bank "Push 1 to continue in English"

What the freak...

I am with you.

29 posted on 05/17/2007 1:36:04 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Cousin Eddie
Bush said this plan solves the problem without animosity and without amnesty. The fact is, he brewed up both amnesty and animosity.

I have supported the president despite my disagreement with him on this issue and on spending. However this immigration thing is emblematic of the flaws in his leadership style. A president needs to be steadfast in his approach to principles. President Bush however, is intransigent. He should have simply reevaluated his position on this and changed course. His views on immigration were formed when he was Governor of Texas, in a pre 9/11 world. They were probably not the best policies even in that context.

30 posted on 05/17/2007 1:38:14 PM PDT by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: bnelson44

If we the people want to stop this, we can. It’s just a question of whether we really want to stop it.


31 posted on 05/17/2007 1:39:36 PM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: bnelson44
“I hope we don't take a thousand page bill written in secret and try to ram it through the Senate in a few days. This is a very important issue for America and we need time to debate it.”

They got PATRIOT through... NWO marches on. Watch out for the gun ban... it's coming sooner than you sheep think.
32 posted on 05/17/2007 1:39:37 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: bnelson44

Well, Drudge linked the press release, so, it’s pegged.....


33 posted on 05/17/2007 1:40:38 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: Jake The Goose; Unmarked Package
DeMint is a rising star in the GOP for many reasons - this is one example. Watch this man down the road - he has a national future if he seeks it.

I agree. Jim DeMint is one of the good guys. If Mitt is successful in winning the nomination -- I hope he has big plans for Jim DeMint.

Mitt Romney has received the endorsement of Sen. Jim DeMint who is a leading figure in the U.S. Senate advocating reduced federal budget spending and smaller government (a hero to fiscal conservatives).
http://www.freerepublic.com/~unmarkedpackage/

34 posted on 05/17/2007 1:40:56 PM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: Jake The Goose

Not sure how the GOP can pull together 40 votes to sustain a filibuster in the Senate if both McConnell and Lott have gone over...

Assuming all 50 RATS want this permanent RAT majority legislation (why wouldn’t they?), they only need 10 GOP votes to shut off debate.

We know they have Specter, McCain, Collins, Snowe, Graham, probably Sununu...

Hard to see how they can’t get to 60 easily...


35 posted on 05/17/2007 1:41:05 PM PDT by mwl1
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first time prioritize immigrants' education and skill level over family connections in deciding how to award green cards.

If this means they have to speak English and I can quit learning Spanish I'm all for it.

The proposed agreement would allow illegal immigrants to come forward and obtain a "Z visa" and—after paying fees and a $5,000 fine—ultimately get on track for permanent residency, which could take between eight and 13 years. Heads of household would have to return to their home countries first.

Now I see why the democrats like this bill, it's basically a way to institute another tax and blame it on the Republicans who are probably the ones demanding some kind of retribution for getting a ticket to pass go. As for sending the father back to wherever and leaving the wife and kids here, this is just another way to fractionalize the family unit, which is the democrats' first love. 

Those workers would have to return home after work stints of two years, with little opportunity to gain permanent legal status or ever become U.S. citizens. They could renew their guest worker visas twice, but would be required to leave for a year in between each time.

So what is it, a 2 year amnesty program? Then the worker will leave voluntarily like they do before their visas expire? They work for 2 years, leave for a year then work for 2 more years? I guess we shouldn't worry about anyone violating the system because I'm sure the high-tech worker identification program will work perfectly, just like everything else has worked perfectly up to now.

 

 

 

36 posted on 05/17/2007 1:41:06 PM PDT by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

“I hope we don’t take a thousand page bill written in secret and try to ram it through the Senate in a few days. This is a very important issue for America and we need time to debate it.”

That is EXACTLY what they plan on doing.


37 posted on 05/17/2007 1:41:30 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: vetsvette

>>There is zero hope that this, or something worse, won’t be passed into law.<<

I called both my senators. One is opposed to it, the other undecided. Believing that you are powerless, and not calling both your senators, is a self-fulfilling prophesy.


38 posted on 05/17/2007 1:42:24 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: bnelson44

Thanks for posting this. I heard this on the way home from work and am trying to wade thru all of the info. When I heard about the deal on Schnitt as I was driving, what ran thru my mind was the illegal aliens and their supporters in the streets of America demanding we let them stay. And, here we are, giving in to their demands. Sickening....
susie


39 posted on 05/17/2007 1:43:30 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: bnelson44
I don't care how you try to spin it, this is amnesty.

Yes, it is. I am glad to see that Senator DeMint is forthrightly naming this bill as an amnesty.

40 posted on 05/17/2007 1:43:59 PM PDT by snowsislander
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