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1 posted on 05/18/2007 12:00:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SunkenCiv; NormsRevenge; blam

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Thought I should post this since the LA Times is always publishing the Global Warming Scare Stories...


2 posted on 05/18/2007 12:02:13 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Your alteration of the headline is misleading—there’s nothing anti-Global Warming Hysteria about an article that includes the line “ the fact that global warming is melting the Arctic’s ice cover”.


3 posted on 05/18/2007 12:03:32 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Completely inaccurate headline. The headline mentions nothing about global warming and the author does not engage in any commentary about it. Why did you add that?


4 posted on 05/18/2007 12:28:31 AM PDT by billybudd
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If you’re looking for melting, the North Pole would be the wrong place to do so. The ambient temperature there never drops below freezing (0°C). Maybe the edges of the Arctic Ocean, but not the North Pole itself.


6 posted on 05/18/2007 12:34:28 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Global warming is not happening because Larry Elder says it isn’t. This position, at this point in time, given the evidence, is not tenable.

Physically, and chemically, we know that the consequences of having these gases in the atmosphere is that they will increase the energy in the atmosphere.
Simulations predict it.
The hottest days/weeks/years on record are those most recent.
There are phds who support the “inside job” 911 crap, so it doesn’t surprise me that you can find plenty of scientists who think we’re in a small cycle and that the planet is not heating up, or that it is heating up for an unrelated reason and will cool down soon enough. I think any such assertion is hogwash.

Maybe the sun is going through a cycle, but the sun doesn’t heat and cool in the long run. It heats. Our sun is the kind of star that gets hotter/larger as it ages, so in the long run, the sun’s heat will destroy the planet, and we just don’t have the kind of model to completely predict to the degree we would need to, how the sun will age exactly except to say, it’s going to get hotter; who can say, but once again, the idea that ‘nothing is happening’ isn’t tenable.

Yeah, sure, just like OJ didn’t do it, this could all be a run of bum luck or just a temperature local extreme, or a giant Al Gore conspiracy, but that’s not a very prudent position to take given the consequences, and especially given the evidence.

It may cool here or there esp as ice melts (endothermic process), but in the long run, ice melting leads to more heat, not less, even if the immediate consequence of melting is a local sharp drop in temperature.

You may win money at a blackjack table in vegas, but in the long run, you lose.

I can picture things getting hotter faster than anyone publicly predicts.

These sorts of negative feedback loops will run amock very quickly if the are going to run amock at all. And it seems to me that they are already starting; and this is really with most of the world not participating in this greenhouse death dance.

I don’t care. Even if the hottest days went to 150F by 2020, we wouldn’t all die. 3rd worlders will die en masse and the human population will undergo a much needed reaping, and a lot of plants and animals would die, but for the most part, things would endure the best they could and science will keep enough of us alive to keep pace with it.

Humanity will survive. But I don’t understand why so many people just completely deny that anything is happening. Do they honestly believe that it’s one grand lie by the ‘liberals’ or ‘al gore’ to make money/manipulate etc?


10 posted on 05/18/2007 1:10:03 AM PDT by kbingham
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That was a good article. I know it’s hard to believe it was in the LA Times.


11 posted on 05/18/2007 2:17:39 AM PDT by Cricket24 (ULTRA PATRIOT!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"We don't want you here," Campbell said with a weary grin. Just as he met us when we arrived, he saw us off. "Things happen when you're here."

Good send off for a reporter.

13 posted on 05/18/2007 2:45:57 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This winter it was -45 where I live, 50 miles north of Anchorage Alaska. -20 isn’t all that bad if there is no wind.


15 posted on 05/18/2007 3:01:06 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Speaking of global warming hysteria, here it is the middle of May and I have to put on a heavy jacket to go outside here in New England. It is a cold, raw 42 degrees this morning and we will be lucky if the high temperature reached 50 degrees. It promises to be a cold, dank weekend as well.

Won't Algore send a little global warming our way? At least for the weekend just so I can have a barbeque and sit outside in my yard without freezing my butt off here in the middle of May!

21 posted on 05/18/2007 3:15:14 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 74 days away from outliving Curt Hennig (whoever he is))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Western Ohio, May 18, 2007 it’s 40 degrees here this morning.


24 posted on 05/18/2007 3:37:21 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

maybe later ...


27 posted on 05/18/2007 4:53:18 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fedora; Fred Nerks; ...

Shiver me timbers, literally. Thanks E. ;’)


36 posted on 05/18/2007 9:20:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 18, 2007.)
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