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New program amnesty in everything but name
The Bakersfield Californian ^ | May 18, 2007 | Marylee Shrider

Posted on 05/18/2007 9:02:38 PM PDT by Politicalmom

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To: Jorge
It might come sooner than you think. But these are colossal forces and who are we to say.
21 posted on 05/18/2007 9:20:43 PM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: Jorge

Taht’s because it IS amnesty. The head-in-the-sand denial of people like you is what’s boring.

If we allow people who are here illegally to get legal, that is amnesty, no matter what you choose to call it.


22 posted on 05/18/2007 9:21:02 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Jorge
amnesty: A general pardon granted by a government, especially for political offenses. [American Heritage Dictionary]

What's the current penalty for being in the country illegally? It's being removed from the country and waiting in line with the rest of law-abiding foreigners. Actually, they ought to be barred from entering for the crime they committed.

Anything that reduces the penalty is amnesty.

The other more important word is injustice. To all those who waited in line properly - followed the law - this law spits in their eye. These illegals should be bumped to the back of the line if not disqualified from the line for their crime.

23 posted on 05/18/2007 9:21:13 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I need to educate myself on surrender?? LMAO!!

I any case try to post a more educated argument. For entertainments sake if nothing else.

24 posted on 05/18/2007 9:21:39 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge

Sure there IS. Educate yourself on the issue and then get back to me.
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Here is some education from Georgia way:

The current debate in Washington D.C. over so-called “Immigration Reform” highlights the failure of our federal government. Instead of enforcing the current laws passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton in 1996, the current Congress seems determined to vote on new laws they haven’t even taken the time to read. It is government at its worst.

As Georgia legislators, we must deal with the failure of the federal government to secure our borders and enforce our current laws. It is incomprehensible that Congress would propose another amnesty plan after the dismal failure of the 1986 amnesty that has led us to this point.
We strongly urge the U.S. Congress to heed the findings and recommendations of the Jordan Commission on Immigration Reform of 1995. Congresswoman Jordan, a civil rights pioneer and Congressional Medal of Honor winner, led a multi-year Blue Ribbon Commission to determine the problems and potential remedies of our illegal immigration crises. If Congress wants to find an answer, they should follow the lead of Congresswoman Jordan.

We further call on Congress to fulfill the most basic responsibility of creating law – debate and discussion. Recent reports suggest the “compromise” bill will go directly to the Senate floor. It is estimated to be hundreds of pages in length. This suggests that our Senators will most likely vote on a bill they have never read, and a measure that has never been fully vetted in committee hearings.

The Senate has not even taken the time to determine the costs of such a “comprehensive” plan. According to expert testimony from a preliminary study to be given today to the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee by Robert Rector of the highly respected Heritage Foundation, the cost of amnesty and earned citizenship for just 7.9 million amnesty recipients would be $2.4 trillion, a cost that must be born by the American taxpayer.

It is unconscionable that any legislator could vote for a measure of this magnitude without knowing and debating all the costs involved.

We denounce any effort to create a so-called “Z-Visa” and touchback provision, which grants amnesty to those who have violated the laws of the United States. Such a plan gives preference to those who have violated the law over those who have followed the law and patiently await legal entrance into the United States.

We reject any idea, specifically those included in HR 1645 and S. 1348, that would effectively abolish the borders of the United States by eliminating the necessity to have a visa to travel anywhere on the North American continent.
We understand that the amnesty of 1986 proved beyond all doubt that the only real solution to solving the illegal immigration and illegal employment crisis in our nation is to secure American borders and hold employers accountable for violation of the law. We do not so cavalierly dismiss an employer’s violation of tax or pollution laws, yet somehow we are led to believe we should accept that a violation of immigration law should go unpunished.

Sadly, we have little faith in the current administration’s dedication to certify border security or operational control. Almost one-year has passed since President Bush signed a border security bill calling for the creation of an almost 700-mile physical barrier. To date only two miles have been completed.

It is our belief that no responsible elected official would even consider the fraud that is being offered as “comprehensive reform” in the U.S. Senate.
Sen. Chip Rogers (R-Woodstock) Chairman, Georgia Senate Immigration Reform Caucus

Rep. John Lunsford (R-McDonough) Chairman, Georgia House of Representatives Immigration Reform Caucus


25 posted on 05/18/2007 9:21:47 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Jorge

56% of Americans support enforcement only.


26 posted on 05/18/2007 9:22:02 PM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: Politicalmom

>>One might think so, though with the sense of entitlement we’ve come to know so well, illegal immigrants interviewed by Associated Press reporters this week said they find the bill’s key provisions too pricey, too inconvenient and not at all to their liking. How’s that for gratitude?<<

Ingratitude is hard to take. Amnesty strongly motivates more illegal immigration.


27 posted on 05/18/2007 9:22:51 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: Politicalmom; All

SAY NO to Amnesty!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


28 posted on 05/18/2007 9:23:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Jorge

It needs to happen. It doesn’t have to be all at once.

1. Secure the border to stop the flow of illegals.
2. Locate illegals.
3. Deport as many as possible for however many years it takes.


29 posted on 05/18/2007 9:23:42 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: TBP
Taht’s because it IS amnesty. The head-in-the-sand denial of people like you is what’s boring.

Hey Jose, your head's in the sand. I'm quite aware of the Mexican invasion. I however disagree with you on how to deal with it.

And I bet you my view prevails. Wait and see.

30 posted on 05/18/2007 9:24:53 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge

There is nothing entertaining in what is going on here.

Try MAD Magazine.


31 posted on 05/18/2007 9:26:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: B Knotts
56% of Americans support enforcement only.

I don't believe 56% support the effort and cost of deporting millions of people. No way.

32 posted on 05/18/2007 9:27:21 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Build the wall. Fine.

And cut off all the welfare freebies. .....and heavily fine illegal-hiring employers. .....and rescind the anchor baby laws (specifically, the related provisions in the 1965 Immigration Act).

That's reform.

33 posted on 05/18/2007 9:27:51 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Heh!


34 posted on 05/18/2007 9:27:53 PM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: Jorge
These arguments are so worn out...

Of course, many predicted in 1986 that we would need another amnesty for those who decided it was a question of when, not if, it would come...go masturbate by yourself, please.

35 posted on 05/18/2007 9:28:54 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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To: Jorge

“And I bet you my view prevails.”

And just what is your view??


36 posted on 05/18/2007 9:29:07 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
There is nothing entertaining in what is going on here.

It's entertaining me.

But it's now getting past my bedtime. Buenas noches amigos.

37 posted on 05/18/2007 9:29:46 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: James W. Fannin

: )


38 posted on 05/18/2007 9:30:25 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: gogeo
...go masturbate by yourself, please.

Please stick to the topic and don't project your personal habits on the rest of us.

39 posted on 05/18/2007 9:31:40 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge

“But it’s now getting past my bedtime. Buenas noches amigos.”

Press 1 for depotation, jackoff!


40 posted on 05/18/2007 9:32:21 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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