Posted on 05/22/2007 9:44:00 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
Dale Volker is an important man. He is the head of the Senate Codes Committee that decides which gun legislation will be voted on by our representatives in his chamber. He is also a former state trooper.
I sat in his office a couple of weeks ago lobbying for the passage of the gun dealer bill, which would require gun dealers to: (1) remove guns from shop windows and lock them in a closet at night, (2) keep inventory, and (3) provide employees with simple but key training to recognize straw purchasers.
Volker’s assistant listened and agreed to talk with the senator about the bill. But the aide’s initial reaction was that the senator probably would not be in favor of it.
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I wish these gun control Nazis would stop illustrating their stupidity in public. I already know they’re stupid.
Robyn Ringler, a nurse, lawyer and writer in Ballston Lake, is on the board of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence. She was assigned to care for President Ronald Reagan for 10 days in George Washington University Hospital following the 1981 attempt on his life.
So 'Robyn' is a nurse, a lawyer, AND a 'writer' - how special. But su-prise, su-prise - she's also on the board of a Gun Grabber group.
And what her attending to RR has to do with this is beyond me. Maybe they should ask the guy who mopped RR's hospital room floor what he thinks too. Maybe he likes guns?
Taking those two statements at face value, it seems like the writer is proposing the death penalty for “innocent children and other members of the community.”
What an idiot store owner, I’m sorry but all the gun shops I know have no live weapon thats not locked behind some metal at night. Whther it’s in the vault room, or a safe, evrey hand gun is secured, and long guns are chained.
He also usually has all long gun bolts removed while the weapons are on display. Leave a gun in a window..His insurance company ought to shut him down.
What are they going to train them to recognize?
The Form 4473 you fill out when purchasing a firearm asks the buyer if they are the actual buyer of the firearm. However, even if you are buying a firearm with your own money as a gift, you are considered the actual buyer. It is only if someone else gives you the money to buy the firearm that you become a straw purchaser.
See question 12a on page 1 and notice 1 on page 3.
http://www.atf.gov/forms/4473/
The typical scenario I've heard gun control advocates describe is two people coming into the store. The first person looks at the gun, handles it, and finds what they like, but when it come time to purchase the gun, the second person fills out the paperwork and pays for the gun.
Despite what the media and gun control advocates would have you believe that is not illegal unless the first person is actually providing the money to purchase the firearm or paying them back later.
The person who purchases the firearm and therefore takes possession of it from the dealer has to fill out the paperwork.
The dealer is responsible to make sure the person who purchases the gun can legally do so. If they see one person give another person money with which to purchase a gun, then they should probably refuse to sell them the gun. Although even then if the one person is simply loaning a friend the money with which he is purchasing the gun, it is still legal, as long as he isn't purchasing it for the person who "loaned" him the money.
thanks, bfl
Logic sometimes escapes the legal process.
The government has held bartenders liable for diagnosing who has had too much to drink for a long time now.
Gun dealers are more important than cops. Cops are a necessary part of the government, which (the government) properly exists to protect and serve those outside government.
Without the public, government would be pointless, not to mention impossible, since it is out labor that pays their salaries. Without government, the lives of members of the public would be less convenient (sometimes), more dangerous (sometimes), etc. but far from pointless. Government exists because of those of us outside, not vice versa.
Oh, and cops can choose or not to be cops, or to continue to be so, and if they don’t make that choice after serious consideration of the characteristics inherent in the job, why is that our problem to have to fix? In contrast, if a public citizen gets the short end of some legislation, he has to convince 51% of his peers of his opinion in order to fix it.
A good defense attorney would put the defendant on the stand and ask if the defendant is a medical doctor qualified to quantitatively assess the blood alcohol level of a customer. Ask again, is the defendant trained as a law enforcement officer to perform field sobriety tests on customers sitting at a bar. Ask again, is the defendant provided with calibrated breathalyzer devices or a lab to perform a blood draw on a customer. If the answers are no, then the defendant with simply be guessing about the level of intoxication of a given customer.
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