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McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming
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Posted on 05/23/2007 7:26:44 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming By Nathan Burchfiel CNSNews.com Staff Writer May 23, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - A panel discussion on global climate change Tuesday found Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) staff agreeing with representatives for the leading Democratic presidential contenders. A cap-and-trade system for carbon emissions, they agreed, is the most promising solution to "global warming."

A cap and trade system would involve limits or caps (lower than current levels) on the amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions produced by polluters like power plants. But companies able to cut their CO2 output at a low cost would be able to sell their left-over pollution permits to companies facing higher costs.

John Raidt, a policy advisor to McCain, said during a discussion at the left-leaning Brookings Institution that the Arizona Republican is a "foremost proponent of carbon cap-and-trade."

Raidt said McCain supports a cap-and-trade system above taxes on carbon emissions because "cap-and-trade is a market-driven, proven way."

The position put McCain in league with leading Democratic contenders - Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, and former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina - whose policy advisors also participated in the discussion.

Representatives for the three Democrats said they all support a carbon cap-and-trade system.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mccain; mccaingore; mccaingwarming; mccainlieberman; mcfraud; mctraitor; rinomccain
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To: willgolfforfood

He didn’t/doesn’t support the tax cuts?

He’s a Democrat, through and through.


41 posted on 05/23/2007 9:00:36 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Sub-Driver

No, I do not want him to retire. I want him to explode in a fit right on TV in prime time when he doesn’t get what he wants: the nomination. I can’t wait. THis time I hope they take him kicking and screaming off the stage. Popcorn is purchased, brand new popper sitting in the box waiting, and the cokes are on ice. Bring it on.


42 posted on 05/23/2007 9:27:10 AM PDT by twonie ( watch this space)
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To: John Cena

SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE (in my best Gomer Pyle voice).


43 posted on 05/23/2007 9:33:13 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Looks like he can at least count on aRnold’s support in the California primary.. add him to the list of dems he stands with.


44 posted on 05/23/2007 9:33:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: aruanan

Please everyone view this presentation for clarification on Globull Warning. The facts you stated are shown here.

The Great Global Warming Swindle (2007)

1 hr 15 min 58 sec - Mar 17, 2007
Average rating: (609 ratings)
Description: What’s the truth about Global Warming? Global Warming is indeed real, but does it have more to do with the natural cycles of the Sun rather than Man-made C02? “We’ve almost begun to take it for granted that climate change is a man-made phenomenon. But just as the environmental lobby think they’ve got our attention, a group of naysayers have emerged to slay the whole premise of global warming.” http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/


45 posted on 05/23/2007 9:47:43 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson had it right.)
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To: nanook

I’ve been passing this video (or links to it) on to people for a while now.


46 posted on 05/23/2007 9:51:57 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Sorry. I was so impressed with it I felt I had to pass it on also. Great minds think alike, Huh?


47 posted on 05/23/2007 9:54:55 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson had it right.)
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To: nanook
Sorry. I was so impressed with it I felt I had to pass it on also. Great minds think alike, Huh?

Also look at what they have at www.CO2science.org.
48 posted on 05/23/2007 10:16:01 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: nanook
Of especial interest are these two: The first because it relates to something both McCain and Hillary were bloviating about; the second, because it shows that the greatest amount of net warming took place in the Arctic at a time when it could not possibly have been due to CO2.

1. Africa (Glaciers): What has been falsely claimed about them? And what has been determined to be the real truth?
2. Arctic Warming: Is It as Real and as CO2-Induced as Climate Alarmists Claim?
49 posted on 05/23/2007 11:59:17 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Sub-Driver
McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming

He has good bloodlines....hard to tell now.

50 posted on 05/23/2007 12:00:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: nanook
Here's another good one:

Solar-Powered Millennial-Scale Climatic Change, Volume 9, Number 1: 4 January 2006
For the same reason, and also without specifying a particular mechanism, Braun et al.'s exercise suggests that the similarly-paced millennial-scale oscillation of climate that has reverberated throughout the Holocene (but with less perfect regularity) is also driven by the combinatorial effect of the DeVries-Suess and Gleissberg solar cycles. In fact, the German scientists say that the stimulus for their idea that "a multi-century climate cycle might be linked with century-scale solar variability comes from Holocene data," citing the work of Bond et al. (2001), who found that "over the last 12,000 years virtually every centennial time-scale increase in drift ice documented in our North Atlantic records was tied to a solar minimum," and who concluded that "a solar influence on climate of the magnitude and consistency implied by our evidence could not have been confined to the North Atlantic," suggesting that the cyclical climatic effects of the variable solar inferno are experienced throughout the entire world.

What are some of the better-known climatic manifestations of this cyclical solar-powered phenomenon? Bond et al. report that the climatic oscillation's most recent cold node and the warm node that preceded it were "broadly correlative with the so called 'Little Ice Age' and 'Medieval Warm Period'." Likewise, Rahmstorf states that "the so-called 'little ice age' of the 16th-18th century may be the most recent cold phase of this cycle."

The final logical extension of these observations should be obvious to all: the global warming of the past century or so, which propelled the earth out of the Little Ice Age and into the Current Warm Period, was in all likelihood a result of the most recent upswing in this continuing cycle of solar-induced climate change. Hence, there is no longer any need to consider the historical rise in the atmosphere's CO2 concentration as being the primary driver of 20th-century warming. Like everything else climate alarmists lump along with it, the much-maligned greenhouse gas was merely "along for the ride" on earth's eternally-oscillating climatic roller coaster whose operator is the sun.

51 posted on 05/23/2007 12:41:33 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Sub-Driver
Dude--I'm seriously wondering if McCain is trying to run for the Democratic nomination since his actions are far more in line with them than with the Republicans.

McCain's campaign will go down in the history books as the prime example of what NOT to do when running for office.

52 posted on 05/23/2007 7:15:41 PM PDT by VegasBaby
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To: Cicero
Very observant Cicero, the Big Mac should have figured it out.
53 posted on 05/23/2007 8:55:50 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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