Posted on 05/23/2007 8:20:30 PM PDT by Valin
An Interview With Senator Kyl
Posted by Hugh Hewitt | 7:40 PM
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/8aff6805-b325-4f66-9197-94313051a0de
I just concluded a three segment interview with Senator Kyl, and though he is much more engaging than Secretary Chertoff, he didn’t persuade me at all on my four major issues:
(1)Why not build all of the fence first and not just 370 miles? An amendment has added some miles of vehicular barriers, but why not 330 more miles of real fence? This is an easy fix: Finish the fence before the first Z Visa issues.
(2)Why not take the Border Patrol to the level it needs to be now? An amendment has added some additional agents, but not the nearly the full strength that will be needed. And if recruitment is tough, raise their pay.
(3)Where are the resources to do the background checks and interviews on a minimum 12 million people? This is the biggest hole in the bill by far, and the idea that the government is going to be able to ever handle 12 million fingerprint checks and criminal record checks followed by investigations and interviews is just absurd.
(4)Why in the world are we treating illegal immigrants from countries with known jihadist/terrorist networks the same as illegal aliens from Mexico and Central American countries? Why not carve out and leave “in the shadows” illegal aliens from countries with known terrorist networks? If the compromise sponsors’ are correct, after the probationary cards are issued no one will be able to find work without such a probationary card, and thus the most dangerous subgroups of illegals will be isolated if they are excluded from the probationary program. I know there are criminals and gang members among the Spanish speaking illegal populations, but none —as yet— have been suicide pilots or bombers. And I know that the vast majority of illegal aliens from countries with jihadist networks are not jihadists.
What I am proposing isn’t “fair” to the illegals from countries of special interest who are themselves law abiding economic immigrants, but the security of the country comes before fairness to the people who entered it illegally. The idea of handing a well covered jihadist a “move around the country freely” pass, which allows him to not only work but also to leave and return to the country strikes me as beyond any possible defense.
The transcript of the interview with Senator Kyl will be here later in the day. The audio will be here.
It’s amazing how many words some folks can take to say nothing of importance.
I think Chertoff just says whatever happens to pop into his head at any particular moment.
Bush stooge parrots the Bush open border, pro-illegal position. The little fence that wasn’t.
It's amazing that anything can survive in such a vacuum.
Chertoff came off as a geniune phony on Hughs show.
Hugh held his feet to the fire though.
Chertoff needs to look into bridge sales when he retires. Could make some good money.
And more
Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe on the problems with the new immigration bill.
The Hugh Hewitt Show
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/Transcript_Page.aspx?ContentGuid=a7d9cffe-9d91-4350-b7d4-34ae5a3e2df0
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HH: Senator, today there were some amendments offered to the immigration bill. I gather that the temporary workers program has been cut in half to a maximum of 200,000 a year. Is that what happened today?
JI: Well, yeah, that’s what happened, but there’s going to be more to come. There probably are, oh, four or five more amendments filed concerning that program. Hugh, I know you’re going to have Chertoff on, you’re going to have my best friend, Jon Kyl on, and it’s very rare that Jon and I are not together on virtually every issue, and this one, there’s a disagreement. But I’d like to put it in perspective, because those of us who were not involved…Jon was involved, Chertoff was involved, I was not, and the majority in this were not.
(snip)
Now the reason I was hesitant to go along with someone’s word with how all these things are so good is because I have one area that I have offered an amendment several times before. So when I got the copy of this bill, that’s the English language amendment, when I got the copy of the bill, I looked up to see how that draft that we were working from, starting on Monday, treated English as the national language. Well, to recall to your mind, because you and I talked about a year ago on this same subject, I had an amendment making English the official language of…the national language. It was nothing more than saying that you don’t have an entitlement to have anything that you want from government in any language other than English. That’s your only entitlement. Well, right after I passed mine with a vote of 62-35 on the floor of the Senate, the Salazar amendment came in and totally ripped mine apart. Now you know, and your listeners are pretty sophisticated, they know that what happened here was a lot of Democrats, primarily, were covering themselves by voting for mine, then turned right around, three minutes later, and voted for Salazar. When I looked up in this to see how that was treated in this bill, Section 702, is the Salazar language, and not my language. So that made me a little suspicious of what else is in there that we didn’t really know about, and still to this time, haven’t had a chance to thoroughly investigate.
HH: Yeah, Section 701 provides that English is the common language of the United States, followed by the announcement that this status does not diminish or expand any existing rights under the laws of the United States relative to the services or materials provided by the government. It’s humbug.
JI: Yeah, well, all it says is it doesn’t diminish or expand, so it’s the same, But I think what you did not read is the most significant part, if I can real quickly do that.
HH: Please.
JI: Under definition, it says for the purpose of this section law, now that’s what we’re defining now, law is defined as including provisions of the United States Constitution, the United States Code controlling judicial decisions, regulations, and listen to this now, presidential executive orders. In other words, you’re taking the very famous now, Bill Clinton executive order of 13166, which gives an entitlement to anyone receiving federal funds, to have a translator there available in the language of your choice.
HH: Right.
JI: Now that codifies something that was not codified before, so this bill actually made that situation worse.
HH: Wow.
JI: And now what I’ve got is an amendment, and I’m hoping that people, it’ll be on the floor tomorrow morning, they’ll think of every reason in the world not to…to oppose it. My amendment strikes section 702, and any of your listeners…look, there’s a new poll that came out just today, a new Zogby poll that actually had 83% of all Americans, and 76% of the Hispanics in America indicate that they support my language. These are Hispanics we’re talking about.
HH: Yeah, I love that provision. We’ll watch that amendment tomorrow. But you also have expertise, Senator, I want to tap into, with regards to the fence, because you know the Endangered Species Act, you know the Clean Water Act.
Hugh held his feet to the fire though.
It’s one of the reasons I really like his show.
I listen every night. He is one of the best at actual thinking!
MC: It’s not being built mile by mile.
HH: Sure. And is any of it finished?
MC: Hugh, pull my finger!
Maybe it’s due to my thorough disgust with the bill he’s trying to sell, but I’ve just never noticed what a dour, soulless, emaciated person he is ... positively Grim Reaper-ish.
just for once when these idiots pop off about the cost of deporting the illegals I wish some one would ask them the total cost including all future social program benefits of the Amnesty Bill of 2007.
$2 Trillion Dollars as estimated by Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation.
This I know, but none of the people pushing the bill have yet to have to answer the question. Making them answer it on network TV could go a long way toward killing this thing off.
Yet one more problem with this bill, the CBO has not seen it yet, so (officially) no one knows what the cost will be.
One mans opinion (freely given, and worth almost that much) This bill is dead, or soon will be.
“$2 Trillion Dollars as estimated by Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation.”
Do you have a link? Thanks
Robert Rector, Senior Research Fellow - The Heritage Foundation
Bill Bennett
Bennett digs into the hard facts behind the latest push for immigration reform, with Robert Rector.
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