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Frightening Eco-Freak Quotes
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Posted on 05/23/2007 8:56:56 PM PDT by Schatze

These were gathered by one of our local (Bay Area) talk-show hosts. These people are certifiable.

"We already have too much economic growth in the United States. Economic growth in rich countries like ours is the disease, not the cure." Paul Elrich, Stanford University biologist and Advisor to Albert Gore

"I think if we don't overthrow capitalism, we don't have a chance of saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have an ecological society under socialism. I don't think it's possible under capitalism." Judi Barri of Earth First!

"Capitalism is a cancer in the biosphere." Dave Foreman, Founder, Earth First!

"The northern spotted owl is the wildlife species of choice to act as a surrogate for old-growth forest protection," explained Andy Stahl, staff forester for the Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund, at a 1988 law clinic for other environmentalists. "Thank goodness the spotted owl evolved in the Pacific Northwest," he joked, "for if it hadn't, we'd have to genetically engineer it." Andy Stahl at a 1988 law clinic for environmentalists, staff forester, Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund

"Now, in a widening sphere of decisions, the costs of error are so exorbitant that we need to act on theory alone, which is to say on prediction alone. It follows that the reputation of scientific prediction needs to be enhanced. But that can happen, paradoxically, only if scientists disavow the certainty and precision that they normally insist on. Above all, we need to learn to act decisively to forestall predicted perils, even while knowing that they may never materialize. We must take action, in a manner of speaking, to preserve our ignorance. There are perils that we can be certain of avoiding only at the cost of never knowing with certainty that they were real." Jonathan Shell, author of Our Fragile Earth

"A global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect." Richard Benedict, an employee for the State Department working on assignment for the Conservation Foundation

"[W]e have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest." Stephen Schneider, Stanford University Professor and author Quoted by Dixey Lee Ray in Trashing the Planet (1990)

"I honor Earth First for having the guts to do the things they do. It's not for me, but I understand why they do what they do. And, ultimately, we all help each other." Brock Adams, VP, Audubon Society, quoted in the Los Angeles Times.

"If we seek only personal redemption we could become solitary ecological saints among the masses of those we might classify as 'sinners' who continue to pollute." Bill Devall & George Sessions, Deep Ecology: Living As If Nature Mattered Layton

"More science and more technology are not going to get us out of the present ecological crises until we find a new religion, or rethink our old one." Lynn White, Jr. "The Historical Roots of Our Ecological Crisis," Science, (Mar. 10 1967), p 1206

"Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license.... All potential parents [should be] required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing." David Brower, Friends of the Earth

"The right to have children should be a marketable commodity, bought and traded by individuals but absolutely limited by the state." Keith Boulding, originator of the "Spaceship Earth" concept

"If radical environmentalists were to invent a disease to bring human populations back to sanity, it would probably be something like AIDS. It [AIDS] has the potential to end industrialism, which is the main force behind the environmental crises." Earth First! newsletter


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: animalfarm; anticapitalist; despotism; ecofascism; environmentalism; eugenics; nakedcommunist; orwelliannightmare; starkravingsocialist; usefulidiots; wackos

1 posted on 05/23/2007 8:56:57 PM PDT by Schatze
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To: Schatze

2 posted on 05/23/2007 9:01:52 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: Schatze
...Paul Elrich, Stanford University biologist and Advisor to Albert Gore

This guy has a long record of being consistently, spectacularly wrong. Figures Gore would listen to him. Peas in a pod.

3 posted on 05/23/2007 9:08:32 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Schatze

These anti-capitalist types should feel free to move to a worker’s paradise like Cuba, North Korea, or China.


4 posted on 05/23/2007 9:08:36 PM PDT by SIDENET (Since Mexico controls our country, can I vote in their elections?)
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To: Schatze

Certifiable? More like...just plain evil.

5 posted on 05/23/2007 9:09:18 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * WAHOO WA! * Allen for Senator from VA * Fred Thompson for President)
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To: Schatze

“Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license.... All potential parents [should be] required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.” David Brower, Friends of the Earth”

Well for those of us that are not child-friendly.....NAW, the guy is still a fascist POS!


6 posted on 05/23/2007 9:11:38 PM PDT by Grunthor (You do not fix a criminal issue by making it no longer a crime.)
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To: Roscoe Karns

LOL


7 posted on 05/23/2007 9:12:51 PM PDT by Wheee The People (Go FRed)
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To: Wheee The People

I’ve requested that the Moderator ban you from FreeRepublic for a while, Wheee. Apparently, all you want to do is start confrontation. Fellow Freepers should respect each other.


8 posted on 05/23/2007 9:13:26 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

“LOL” is starting a confrontation? I don’t get it.


9 posted on 05/23/2007 9:16:42 PM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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To: GOP_Lady

Isn’t thread-stalking against the rules? My money is on you getting the reprimand.


10 posted on 05/23/2007 9:18:32 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: rabscuttle385
They believe in death for millions or billions to achieve their ideal. They have tried this in the old USSR, China today, North Korea, and Cuba. The result is in excess of 100 million deaths and the environment of all the above mentioned countries is in the crapper.
11 posted on 05/23/2007 9:18:36 PM PDT by cpdiii (Pharmacist, Pilot, Geologist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it.)
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To: rabscuttle385

It is how they express their piety in the religon they have created. The more radical=the more environmentally righteous.
They are nothing more than ecological pharasees, poking their fingers in the chests of those they preceive as “less righteous” than themselves.

The solution is to point and laugh at them in public.


12 posted on 05/23/2007 9:20:03 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Schatze

Gore’s daddy was one of the biggest commie lovers on the planet, be best buddies with Armand (Sickle) Hammer. The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.

At least the Eco fruits and nuts are being honest about the true agenda. Same goes for global warming and “alternative” energy fraud.

Al Gore Theme: “If I Had A Hammer”
By F.R. Duplantier
From America’s Future

If Al Gore Jr. ever runs for President, he’ll have to answer some embarrassing questions about the source of his family’s wealth.

“One of the minor mysteries of American politics has been the source of wealth for the family of Vice President Albert Gore Jr.,” observes Joseph Goulden of Accuracy in Media. “When Gore’s father was first elected to the House of Representatives in the late 1930s,” Goulden continues, “he was an impecunious Tennessee school teacher who eked out extra dollars by playing fiddle at church weddings. But later, as a United States Senator, he lived in the plush Fairfax Hotel on Embassy Row in Washington, and sent his son, Al Jr., to the pricey St. Albans School, the haunt of kids from Social Register families.”

Armand Hammer
Communism’s ‘Capitalist Prince’ and Vice President Gore’s Greatest Influence
In a recent issue of the Washington Inquirer, Goulden summarizes the contents of a new book called Dossier, written by investigative reporter Edward Jay Epstein, which “shows that the senior Gore had a silent partner who for several decades insured that his pockets remained comfortably filled. He was Armand Hammer, the multi-millionaire businessman and oil promoter who apparently collected art and politicians with equal zeal.” Goulden notes that Al Gore Sr. was “Hammer’s designated door-opener in official Washington.” The handsome compensation that Gore Sr. received for his services culminated in a half-a-million-dollars-a-year position with Armand Hammer’s oil company, Occidental Petroleum. Al Gore Jr. picked up where his father left off and “put the family’s Senate seat at Hammer’s service.”

Goulden describes Armand Hammer as “one of the odder, more odious characters of American business and politics, ‘famous’ chiefly because he was rich enough to promote his mammoth ego.” He notes that Hammer’s carefully and expensively crafted public persona was “that of a renegade oilman who made billions from Libyan oil, chummed around with politicians up to White House level, and adorned acres of galleries with paintings, some priceless, some fakes. Hammer’s lawyers bedeviled honest journalists who tried to write otherwise.”

Hammer’s powerful influence on Al Gore Sr. and Jr. would have been bad enough had he been nothing more than an unscrupulous businessman. Like his father Julius, however, he was a lifelong Communist and a friend of the Soviet Union. “Some scattered hints that Hammer’s ties with the USSR went beyond business friendship have surfaced over the years,” says Goulden. Documents discovered in Soviet archives, however, leave no doubt that Hammer was “a man who bribed and cheated his way to great wealth — and who started with Soviet gold.”

Edward Jay Epstein’s book, Dossier, makes a compelling case that both Al Gore Sr. and Al Gore Jr. were the willing partners of a very powerful and very wealthy man, Armand Hammer, who was not loyal to the United States of America. A truly independent press would have exposed these connections decades ago, long before Al Gore Sr. and Jr. rose to their prestigious and influential positions.


13 posted on 05/23/2007 9:22:19 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: facedown
This guy has a long record of being consistently, spectacularly wrong.

You said it. A few of his other predictions:

"The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s the world will undergo famines . . . [AND] hundreds of millions of people [including Americans] are going to starve to death." (1968)

"Smog disasters" in 1973 might kill 200,000 people in New York and Los Angeles. (1969)

"I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000." (1969)

"Before 1985, mankind will enter a genuine age of scarcity . . . in which the accessible supplies of many key minerals will be facing depletion." (1976)

14 posted on 05/23/2007 9:22:48 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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I also think George Soros has Aramnd Hammer’s mantle wrapped around him.

In the early 1920s Hammer laundered money for Lenin and sold looted Russian art treasures in partnership with Mikoyan, to enrich himself and the Bolshevik regime.

In 1931 Hammer established a banking operation in Paris specifically to provide foreign exchange funds for Stalin.

Meanwhile, Hammer bribed and suborned elected officials at all levels of American life, from mayors to presidents.

Hammer first took control of Gore Sr. in the early 1950s when he was a struggling hick Congressman, putting him on the payroll of a cattle-breeding business which Hammer owned, thereby funneling Gore Sr. large sums. In return for the cattle money, Gore and other powerful legislators also feeding at the Hammer trough, suppressed an FBI investigation into Hammer’s Communist espionage.


15 posted on 05/23/2007 9:30:24 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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"[W]e have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest." Stephen Schneider, Stanford University Professor and author Quoted by Dixey Lee Ray in Trashing the Planet (1990)

Odd how often totalitarian tactics produce nightmare cultures. And yeah, Schneider's talking the talk. Every monster since the beginning of time comes up with the same sh-t: "scare 'em and lie to 'em" -- how creative...

16 posted on 05/23/2007 9:32:21 PM PDT by GOPJ ( When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits--not animals."- Churchill)
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"Combustion is murder"

And the mass murder spree started with these folks:


17 posted on 05/23/2007 9:36:30 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
Lots of Democrats over the years have joined congress as poor or middle class working people and left years later as multimillionaires.

Gore is part of the dems "rich" tradition...

18 posted on 05/23/2007 9:39:26 PM PDT by GOPJ ( When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits--not animals."- Churchill)
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To: Schatze
"Before 1985, mankind will enter a genuine age of scarcity . . . in which the accessible supplies of many key minerals will be facing depletion." (1976)

Julian Simon's Bet With Paul Ehrlich

19 posted on 05/23/2007 9:43:53 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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"As Ehrlich told Tierney, however, he believes there's no lesson to be learned from his bet with Simon."

Which is why Ehrlich keeps making wildly inaccurate predictions. Why anyone except the lapdog media gives him any credibility is beyond me.

20 posted on 05/23/2007 9:54:54 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Schatze

Um....does this surprise anyone?


21 posted on 05/23/2007 9:57:30 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Schatze
"Above all, we need to learn to act decisively to forestall predicted perils, even while knowing that they may never materialize. We must take action, in a manner of speaking, to preserve our ignorance. There are perils that we can be certain of avoiding only at the cost of never knowing with certainty that they were real." Jonathan Shell, author of Our Fragile Earth

"Progressive" thought and ex-"progressive" thought have much in common. The mental disorder is not cured - their affliction is only shifted to a new focus.

22 posted on 05/23/2007 9:57:40 PM PDT by M203M4 (What I wanna see is a pro-war ("kill the bastards") Ron Paul. Pacifism is suicide.)
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To: Schatze

these folks are some of the many faces of tyranny and oppression


23 posted on 05/23/2007 9:58:19 PM PDT by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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...I think it is possible to have an ecological society under socialism. I don't think it's possible under capitalism." Judi Barri of Earth First!

Just look at the former Soviet bloc to see how pristine their enviornments were under 'socialism'.

24 posted on 05/23/2007 9:59:22 PM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: Tzimisce
does this surprise anyone?

Not me. It's just interesting to see all of these quotes gathered in one spot. I think this one best sums up the enviro-nuts' shameless tactics: "A global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect."

25 posted on 05/23/2007 10:04:29 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Schatze

A Master’s degree student actually wrote in our local newspaper that not only did Gore look LIKE Superman, he wouild save the world like Superman did (in the movie). If that’s what we’re graduating we are in a hell of a fix.


26 posted on 05/23/2007 10:06:23 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Inquisitive1

Tragedy of the commons - pretty bad when 100% is commons. The expansion of private property rights is the best possible thing that could happen for the environment. That such policy is not embraced is evidence of extreme economic ignorance and/or evidence that ecofascism is merely a convenient cover for the expansion of socialism (the environmental movement has been hijacked by “watermelons” since the 60’s - green on the outside, red on the inside).


27 posted on 05/23/2007 10:07:20 PM PDT by M203M4 (What I wanna see is a pro-war ("kill the bastards") Ron Paul. Pacifism is suicide.)
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To: Schatze

http://pushback.com/environment/EcoFreakQuotes.html

Some more quotes (some are repeats of those already listed)


28 posted on 05/23/2007 10:08:57 PM PDT by M203M4 (What I wanna see is a pro-war ("kill the bastards") Ron Paul. Pacifism is suicide.)
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To: Schatze

Always worth a laugh to recall to mind how many of these pontificating windbags are either rich themselves or rely on wealthy capitalists for donations to their well-endowed organizations. It might be worthwhile for them to consider, for a moment, that, in a true Marxist state, all such “intellectuals” as they would be lined up against a wall as a matter of course and shot at the first opportunity. Idiots, all.


29 posted on 05/23/2007 10:09:32 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Gore looks as much like Superman as Rosie O'Donnell does like Salma Hayek.

Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen big Al and Rosie in the same room??

30 posted on 05/23/2007 10:14:17 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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Wonder if Al-Quida is drafting and grooming Louis Farrahans flock of Goats... Some reports say they are..


31 posted on 05/23/2007 10:16:06 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Jack Hammer
all such “intellectuals” as they would be lined up against a wall as a matter of course and shot at the first opportunity.

Works for me.

32 posted on 05/23/2007 10:16:58 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Egon

Incredible!


33 posted on 05/23/2007 10:57:42 PM PDT by RhoTheta ("We're expecting another 8-12 inches of global warming today.")
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To: Schatze

BTTT.


34 posted on 05/23/2007 11:02:45 PM PDT by TBP
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I take it back, it is surprising that the Bay area would slam environmentalists. You’d think that would be illegal under some San Francisco speech code against racism or something...


35 posted on 05/24/2007 12:36:07 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Schatze

Communists are a total waste of air.


36 posted on 05/24/2007 10:05:07 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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I take it back, it is surprising that the Bay area would slam environmentalists.

The quotes were put together by one of our local talk-radio hosts who's a former meteorologist. Shockingly, we have four conservative talk stations in this area. Fear not, however: They're under constant attack from the leftists looking for any excuse to shut them down.

37 posted on 05/24/2007 12:35:49 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: GOP_Lady

“LOL” means “laugh out loud.” The poster your criticized for being a disruptor was merely laughing at the comic in post #2. ......not exactly disrupting.


38 posted on 05/24/2007 12:40:21 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Schatze

Don’t worry, Liberals in Congress will try to force through a “fairness doctrine” and stop Conservative radio. Otherwise, they might lose San Francisco to Conservative Republicans....

(/sarcasm)


39 posted on 05/25/2007 9:47:04 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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