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What Does It Mean "The South Shall Rise Again":
The Wichita (KS) Eagle ^ | 23 May 2007 | Mark McCormick

Posted on 05/24/2007 6:03:30 AM PDT by Rebeleye

...he was stunned to see two large Confederate flags flying from trucks...emblazoned with the words "The South Shall Rise Again." I'm stunned, too, that people still think it is cool to fly this flag. Our society should bury these flags -- not flaunt them...because the Confederate flag symbolizes racial tyranny to so many... ...This flag doesn't belong on city streets, in videos or in the middle of civil discussion. It belongs in our past -- in museums and in history books -- along with the ideas it represents.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
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To: Non-Sequitur

Fair treatment of news stories. If he finds this to be “racial tyrrany”, what does he think of the Wichita massacre, and why didn’t he write about it then?


361 posted on 05/24/2007 9:42:30 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: beckysueb

‘Make fun of NO all you want to. There were alot of good people who lived in NO. A handfull of bad apples will spoil the whole city. Besides it didn’t stop you yanks from making it a big tourist attraction, did it?’

I love New Orleans, always have, always will. And most of the ‘good people’ got the hell out when told by the mayor, then the governor, then the President in effect ‘run for your lives’.

As for ‘didn’t stop you yanks from coming’....hell no it didn’t. Booze flowing freely, women that will flash you for beads, cajun cooking, and great music all in one place?

Of course we came. If you build it, I assure you we will come to play....(chuckle)

Wouldn’t live there because of the crime, however, which you know is unbelievably high.


362 posted on 05/24/2007 9:42:48 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: twonie

Too funny! I lived in Ohio until I was eleven, then moved to NC. Told my folks when we hit the mountains of NC I felt like I was home. Daddy just laughed. His people are from Kentucky-before that, his grandma was Cherokee from NC and his granddad Welsh! They migrated north and west, looking for work.
Don’t even get me started on Southern food! There’s nothing like it in the world. And Southern cooks...!


363 posted on 05/24/2007 9:45:40 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: Texas Songwriter

Wow! Just wow! What a perfect description of the Southland that I love so much.


364 posted on 05/24/2007 9:45:55 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: Non-Sequitur

Hey there Non. Now don’t you be calling me a pot — unless, of course, it’s a cast iron pot used for Southern style Chicken and Dumplins’.


365 posted on 05/24/2007 9:46:53 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: tpaine
If the States had - from the outset - protected their powers from federal encroachments in the Courts - the civil war need never have been fought.

That was the beauty of Original Intent, the federal court had no jurisdiction over the States unless it was an issue of already-delegated powers.

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In January 1800, the entire House went to the state legislature of Virginia. Both Virginia and Kentucky had petitioned the new federal government that the recent Alien and Sedition Act was unconstitutional. Madison wrote the report James Madison, Report on the Virginia Resolutions

However true, therefore, it may be, that the judicial department is, in all questions submitted to it by the forms of the Constitution, to decide in the last resort, this resort must necessarily be deemed the last in relation to the authorities of the other departments of the government; not in relation to the rights of the parties to the constitutional compact, from which the judicial, as well as the other departments, hold their delegated trusts. On any other hypothesis, the delegation of judicial power would annul the authority delegating it; and the concurrence of this department with the others in usurped powers, might subvert forever, and beyond the possible reach of any rightful remedy, the very Constitution which all were instituted to preserve.

366 posted on 05/24/2007 9:48:07 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Government cannot make a law contrary to the law that made the government)
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To: gardengirl

Oh go ahead, gardengirl, get “started” on Southern food and cooks. I’ll join in.


367 posted on 05/24/2007 9:48:27 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: ffenkle

I’m not saying everyone. I’m talking about the northeast liberals. If you think thats overstated go read some of the left websites, what they say about the south.


368 posted on 05/24/2007 9:54:01 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: cripplecreek
"I always pictured the General Grant as more of a GTO."

And blue might not be the best color either.
[Bonnie Blue Flag and all...]

"Battle Hymn..." also has unfortunate religious overtones in today's society.
Maybe "Yankee Doodle" better captures the times?

On the other hand, there is no reason to be ashamed of General Grant:
the other greatest general who fought in that war.

[PS: To me 'The South Shall Rise Again' simply meant that a nation beaten down by war would rebuild and restore itself despite being occupied by people determined to keep it down]

369 posted on 05/24/2007 9:54:39 AM PDT by norton
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To: Montanabound

Good point!


370 posted on 05/24/2007 9:55:21 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: gardengirl
"....Huge men, barrel chested, reddish gold hair. Loud, opinionated, mistrustful of the law in any form -men who live by their own code-good men-men...

Have we met? LOL...I have had those same complaints lodged against me my whole life.

My family came to the timber lands of Mississippi from the Abbyville district of NC in the 1830s by way of Maryland and before that New Hampshire. My 5th Great Grand Father was a business associate of George Washington. I'm Scotch-Irish with heavy dose of Welsh blood. Tall, formerly blond, with a bright red beard. LOL
371 posted on 05/24/2007 9:56:46 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: Islander7
The 2/3 personage for blacks was insisted upon by Northern politicians to balance the census so the South would not be over represented it the congress diluting Northern power. So there!!

But had the Southern delegates gotten their way and had a slave counted as a whole person then wouldn't the Southern overrepresentation been even worse? In 1860 there were over 3 million slaves in the South. That added over 1.8 million people to the census for the purpose of determining congressional seats. But those 1.8 million extra people had no more use for political representation than a barn or a lamppost. They were considered property and not people. They had no rights, no privledges, no freedoms at all. So please don't get all high and mighty about the North demanding the 3/5ths counting for slaves. It was the South that was using slaves for crass political purposes and in an blatant attempt to grab power. The 3/5ths rule was merely an attempt to keep them from using the slaves as badly as they might have.

Heck, Lincoln had no desire to free the slaves until late in the war. He wanted to save the Union.

So? The Southern leaders had no desire to free the slaves at all. Does that make them worse than Lincoln?

372 posted on 05/24/2007 9:56:48 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Confederate riffraff? So you knew these people personally?


373 posted on 05/24/2007 9:59:09 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: Texas Songwriter
aka..war of northern aggression.

I still don't get it...

374 posted on 05/24/2007 9:59:10 AM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: KarlInOhio

Nah, call it the “Sherman”.


375 posted on 05/24/2007 10:00:08 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: varina davis

Fried chicken, potato salad, light rolls, string beans fresh from the garden-fried okra-sweet potatoes/slow baked-red eye gravy-nanner pudding-corn on the cob with plenty of butter-fresh tomatoes-country ham-oysters-shrimp-baked flounder with potatoes and bacon and onions-fried cornbread-MY SPOONBREAD.
Need I say more? :)
Not to brag, but I am one of the cooks I mentioned earlier! LOL


376 posted on 05/24/2007 10:00:32 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: Islander7
The 2/3 personage for blacks was insisted upon by Northern politicians to balance the census so the South would not be over represented it the congress diluting Northern power. So there!!

Different argument. The 2/3 refers to the non-slave population of the South in 1860, which would have been the sole beneficiaries of an independent Confederacy.

The 3/5 refers to the compromise in the Constitution, where the South wanted the slaves to be counted as citizens, but owned as livestock without the right to elect the representatives they were being counted to apportion. I imagine the South would have objected to the "dilution" of their power, had the North insisted on counting their horses in the census.

377 posted on 05/24/2007 10:01:20 AM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: Badeye
‘Answer “Cause your down here....’ said the young Iraqi man...

Perhaps the young sunni Iraqi man...but even thats a stretch.

Same argument and equally persuasive each time it is used.

378 posted on 05/24/2007 10:01:32 AM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: frithguild

Nope, for a variety of reason I won’t detail on a American Civil War thread. Save it for an Iraqi thread.


379 posted on 05/24/2007 10:02:47 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Little Pig

There's already a vehicle called the Sherman.

ps: notice the flags ;^)

380 posted on 05/24/2007 10:03:24 AM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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