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To: Hadean
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In ABSTRACT terms, this is the conspiratorial view of what’s going on vis-à-vis the INVASION of the illegals here:

The current alien invasion from the south serves BOTH the elites who run Mexico – and many of the OTHER states of Central and South America -- and the political ruling class who increasingly run the United States:

· It takes pressure off the 60 or so families who control approximately 80% of the wealth in Mexico. Without the northern “safety valve” (the United States) for their poor, those poor MIGHT be inclined to do what America’s early colonists found it necessary to do: Revolt! Parenthetically, that would be MY suggestion for them: Instead of fleeing here – and converting “here” to a larger, more poverty infested version of “there,” they ought to stay there and make “there” into their version of “here,” whatever that would be. Revolutions ARE messy and there are no guarantees that they will produce the desired result. But – according to one T. Jefferson – they are often necessary. Never forget that THIS country was born in revolution!

· For the NAFTA/CAFTA coveting US national ruling class – especially those who, in varying degrees, quest after some sort of One-World utopia run by guess who? – it provides yet another level of insecurity and tension among the indigenous populace which can be used to justify new and more draconian limits to freedom here. Instead of securing the borders, allow millions of illegals to come in and when the natives become alarmed, require a national ID card. “Your papers, please!” will soon become a phrase familiar to all. It’s Mr. Franklin’s trade of freedom for (false) security. It’s also the time-tested Hegelian Dialectic the One-Worlders have successfully worked like a rented mule.

While they occasionally squabble among themselves, the elites of history have ALL had one thing in common: They will do ANYTHING to remain in charge. And throughout that history, except for the 230 year-old experiment in freedom called “America,” most of the men who have walked the earth have lived as slaves to these elites whether they call themselves kings, emperors, potentates, sultans, czars – or presidents.

Get ready, folks. Unless some SERIOUS changes are made and the handful of Americans who CARE about liberty get involved, that history will almost certainly repeat here.

Now for the SPECIFICS of the matter:

My take on Bush's role in all of this is:

1. His long and apparently positive experience with the large hispanic population in Texas is largely responsible for his inaction on this alien invasion. And why wouldn't HIS experience with them be positive as he traveled in the highest, best-educated circles among them, not the Hispanic gangbangers and pine-straw spreaders...

2. His brother Jeb is married to a native of Mexico and his nieces and nephews are mixed blood. And before you scream "ethnocentric bigot" at me, there's nothing inherently wrong with that. But that fact -- and the first item -- DOES predispose him to a warm and fuzzy feeling for folks from south of the Rio Grande.

And if -- in some strange and metastasizing American desire for a new royal family dynasty -- Jeb should win the White House, I'd bet that HIS activities toward this alien invasion will make W's behavior look like a warm-up exercise.

Any vestige of white European culture will be a distant memory.

3 posted on 05/26/2007 5:05:36 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
His brother Jeb is married to a native of Mexico and his nieces and nephews are mixed blood. And before you scream "ethnocentric bigot" at me, there's nothing inherently wrong with that. But that fact -- and the first item -- DOES predispose him to a warm and fuzzy feeling for folks from south of the Rio Grande.

I disagree. This is about helping companies that want to keep the price of labor down. Rather than pay a decent wage, they would rather uphold an irresponsible immigration policy.
7 posted on 05/26/2007 5:16:40 AM PDT by etradervic (Any Conservative in 2008)
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To: Dick Bachert
Good post. I would add that Mexican immigrants offer something that this country is going to need desperately in the coming decades: CONSUMERS.

I believe there is a tendency here to over-emphasize the "cheap labor" aspect of immigration and overlook the "willing consumer" aspect of it.

38 posted on 05/26/2007 6:04:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Dick Bachert
His brother Jeb is married to a native of Mexico

Jeb is married to a Columbian, not a Mexican. This has zipp-o to do with this debate, and this misinformation actually hurts us.
48 posted on 05/26/2007 6:17:46 AM PDT by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgar's farm in 1969.)
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To: Dick Bachert
And if -- in some strange and metastasizing American desire for a new royal family dynasty -- Jeb should win the White House, I'd bet that HIS activities toward this alien invasion will make W's behavior look like a warm-up exercise

Bingo! Brother George is assuring the 60 - 100 million Hispanic/Mexican voting block for bro Jeb when he's ready to run in 8 years.

96 posted on 05/26/2007 8:48:45 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Dick Bachert

If by white Europe culture you mean ANGLO, you are generally correct. A white European culture prevails among the ruling class of Mexico. The problem lies in the antipathy of this ruling class to anything like our political culture, where the ruling class is much broader. In this we are like the English ruling class where the aristocracy was willing to marriage into the monied classes and professional classes. But we are even more so.

Bur as a for revolution, the Mexicans tried this in 1910 and we know the result.


117 posted on 05/26/2007 1:59:08 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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