A VOTE FOR IMMIGRATION.......WHEN IT'S LEGAL (Sens disregard outraged voters at their own peril)

NY POST ^ | May 28, 2007 | VOX POPULI

[Liz]

RE: "Or Just Nativist Rage?" Robert D. Novak, PostOpinion, May 24

**** Conservatives are not against immigration. We are against providing amnesty for those who have broken our laws. Novak's calling them "undocumented foreigners" is extremely annoying - they are here illegally. The bill under consideration promises to secure the border first, but we have heard that promise before, and we are tired of being deceived. NAME REDACTED Edgewood, Md.

**** In 1898, immigrants poured into America with one dream, to become Americans. They learned the language, blended their culture and helped solidify the foundation for the continued growth of the greatest nation the world has ever known. The immigrants of today don't want to embrace our society, learn the language or become Americans. They want us to change and conform to their beliefs and language. The sad thing is, we are. Fayetteville, N.C.

**** It's very simple - obey the law. Hard-working Americans understand this simple concept, but our elected politicians just don't get it. Bear, Del.

**** We find it offensive that our arrogant lawmakers want to reward lawbreakers with citizenship.......We are tired of hearing the very same people - like Sen. Ted Kennedy, who promised us after previous amnesties that the problem was fixed, only for us to find it's gotten far worse - asking us to trust them again...... the people of this country, particularly conservatives, first and foremost want our borders secured. Sens. Lindsey Graham, Saxby Chambliss and others disregard these outraged voters at their own peril. Chester, N.J.

[Liz]

Enforcement of existing regulations and US tax laws would solve the problem of illegal immigration (because there would be no jobs). Aliens crossing the border are committing crime after crime, and our legislators who have sworn to uphold the law do nothing about it.......except castigate the citizenry who dare to point this out:

Aliens who buy fake identification and use forged documents are guilty of fraud (and likely identity theft).

Employers who knowingly accept faked documents violate Homeland Security regulations.

Employers and the people they pay "off the books" are guilty of tax evasion.

Employers who violate these regulations are committing numerous felonies under existing laws; they are gaining an unlawful advantage over their competitors and, more egregiously, they are driving down wages for born-Americans with families to feed.

[goldstategop]

Senators don't care - they serve six years. But it faces tough sledding in the House and the Democrats will take it up only if the GOP votes for it. I can only imagine what House GOP members are hearing from their constituents. And all of them are for election next year.

Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[sgtbono2002]

There is no Republican or democrat party when it come to Amnesty,they all seem to think America cant survive without allowing this invasion to continue and indeed to increase as they allow V-2 and V-3 Visa’s. It appears to be some form of insanity, A rush to the sea as Lemmings do.

[Jim Noble]

Conservatives are not against immigration.

I am.

[goldstategop]

Like we need to house the rest of the world. Let's take care of Americans first.

Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[M-cubed]

they are gaining an unlawful advantage over their competitors and, more egregiously, they are driving down wages for born-Americans with families to feed.<<

Exactly!....THERE IS NO JOB IN AMERICA THAT AMERICANS WONT DO!!!......It's all about price!..In a Free Enterprise system,... Wages are a healthy part of the “Supply and Demand” equation...

Competition thru wages help distribute wealth FAIRLY...If u really want cheaper lettuce, you can always Grow your own

[mewzilla]

Here's an indication of how voters may feel on the subject.

And check out what a large number of 'Rat voters did...

Write on: Barletta knocks Marsicano off ballot

[Liz]

........more egregiously, they are driving down wages for born-Americans with families to feed..........

That alone irks the h*** out of me.

CASE IN POINT: (I willingly pay more and go out of my way to get gas at an American-owned station with American employees who actually speak English.) Chatting up the middle-aged attendant a few days ago---he told me his hours were cutback b/c the owner hired cheap-labor immigrants-----owner also fired his own stepson.

[Erik Latranyi]

The solution that the majority could live with is simple:

1) Secure the borders. Do not proceed to step 2 until this is accomplished.

2) Create a counterfit-proof ID for citizens. Do not proceed to step 3 until this is accomplished.

3) Deal with illegals.

[kjhm]

If our government is not interested in enforcing existing laws, is there any further need for the U.S. Senate? They will only write more laws that nobody will be interested in enforcing, so they are only wasting time and money writing new laws.

[goldstategop]

With Washington, the only time to be concerned is when they extract cash from our wallets. The rest of the time they play games of fools that's just for the theatrical effect.

Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[twonie]

I am only in favor of immigration when it serves our country’s purpose, not when it is used to bulk up the demodrat party voting base, and PLEASE, do not talk to me about so-called refugees. I don’t think it is written anywhere important that we have to let everybody in here - after all it is our home.

[cinives]

our country’s purpose

A country cannot have a purpose. Only individuals can.

[Molly K.]

Yes, it is the ILLEGAL immigration that is so offensive.

However... if everyone becomes instantly legal (Z visas), and then we have an additional 400,000 legally entering (the new “temporary” workers), we will have to face up to the problem of too many LEGAL immigrants.

Too many immigrants - whether they are legal or not - hurt American workers by taking their jobs and depressing their wages.

[BeckB]

Since we can be relied upon to take the oppressed from other countries we enable the dictators to continue their oppression. It is time we expected these people to make changes in their own governments.

[Sybeck1]

Pro Amnesty Senators are hoping for a Clinton nomination in 2008. They know we hate her so much, we will forget about this little immigration thing and continue to vote for them

Karl Rove will probably add a few gay marriage bills to key states to seal this deal.

[CHEE]

Our Founding Fathers created a Congress composed of a House of Representatives, elected by the “we the People”, and a Senate, populated by appointment of each of the several States Legislations. This very wise action has been changed by amending the Constitution to allow the senate to be seated by popular vote. This amendment has created a massive mess in our Capitol.

We must revert to the original method of the way we select members of the Senate. This action would reduce the strong impact that campaign finance currently holds upon the decisions made by each individual senator. The senator of a given State could be recalled by the State he/she represents. Special Interest lobbyist would then have several thousand individuals to bribe in the state legislations instead of only 100 greedy individuals in Washington D.C.

[twonie]

Horse hockey.

[cinives]

The tyranny of the majority ...

Tell me, is the country a living breathing entity with independent thought and action ? No of course not; it’s a collection of individuals with many different motivations.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

Here is the Novak column the letters are about:

novak column

Novak claims that opponents of the bill would have been against his immigrant grandfather, yada, yada, yada.

"In reading part of Dillingham's report into the Senate record, Graham declared that these immigrants who were "ruining America" fathered the "greatest generation." That immigrant wave included my grandfather, a Russian Imperial army veteran working on the John Deere tractor assembly line in Moline, Ill., as an unskilled, undocumented alien who could not speak English. Refuting Dillingham, he was an American patriot proud of a son who fought with the U.S. infantry through Africa and Italy in World War II."