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Are we too fast to dismiss Europe and its past?

Posted on 05/29/2007 11:16:43 PM PDT by TheThinker

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To: rmlew
What's your point?

Hint: Read comment 8 again.
Plenty of Europeans have heard of 'Eurabia,' and many recognize that there is an increase in immigration from Muslim-majority countries (and the government sets up immigration policy).

Your links only support comment 8.

21 posted on 05/30/2007 3:24:04 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Whoops.

Islam is a minority religion there, only about 14.9% according to this link.

22 posted on 05/30/2007 3:27:03 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: colorado tanker

Over here all 3 parties (including the Conservatives)are keen on courting the Islamic vote, as it could tip the balance in Inner-City constituencies.
However, most of us in rural and small town England desperately want these Moslems kicked out. The only parties that pledge to do this are the British National Party and the English National Alliance. Unfortunately they say they will also expel decent communities like Jews, Sikhs,Polish etc; in fact the ENA said last year that even Irish, Welsh, and Scots will have to go.Catholics,Mormons,Eastern Othordox churches would be closed and Church of England would be the only faith permitted.
I think the trouble is a lot of stupid people see someone from India, the Carribean, or even China and think “Oh that lot tried to blow London a couple of years ago,lets teach them a lesson.”Round here we have them, I suppose a bit like your Trailer park people,they have red necks.
Anyway the point I was trying to make is that the mainstream parties seem more worried about Moslems in the Cities than us,the native taxpaying,working Christian people.I seriously think that we come last,I really despair.
Take my advice and scrutinize your prospective Congress candidates very carefully,even your Republican patriotic ones - because once multicutural goverment gets in the national bloodstream, it becomes very difficult to find that ideal anti-biotic, heritage, social cohesion, Christianity and national pride.


23 posted on 05/30/2007 5:34:18 AM PDT by jabbermog
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To: rmlew
In post 8, you wrote:
"Because they don't agree, therefore they must not be informed.......
Trashy logic."

I listed evidence that the program exists. That is not an opinion, but a fact. Those who disagree are either, ignorant or willfully ignorant. There are also liars, who are promoting the Eurabia Project.

24 posted on 05/30/2007 9:42:28 AM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: jabbermog

Take over the UK Independence Party.


25 posted on 05/30/2007 9:44:22 AM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: TheThinker
We do need to stand together. I wonder if the MSM will stengthen this effort or dampen it.

Though the MSM is quick to accuse Americans of being ignorant of European happenings, the MSM has barely mentioned the car-torchings and other unrest. The MSM is also reticent to identify the Mooligans because they aren't Republicans and aren't named "Bush".

26 posted on 05/30/2007 10:03:18 AM PDT by syriacus ("...had the US troops remained [in S. Korea in 1949], there would have been no [Korean] War")
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To: rmlew

Yes you said it. I voted for them in the past and they connected with the poor old taxpayer - but they have a habit of fighting among themselves.


27 posted on 05/30/2007 1:02:52 PM PDT by jabbermog
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To: rmlew
So you listed evidence that this program exists--so what: how does that involve what comment 8 stated?

It seems clear enough, but you apparently don't get it. The post isn't arguing that there isn't a Eurabia movement going on, but that a lot of Europeans don't see it as a threat--although they have been informed.

As with the stereotypical view of Europeans toward Americans, and views among conservatives and liberals about the other side, or even Creationism and Macroevolution, it isn't based on poor information, but rather on personal opinion and experience. It's sort of an information vs. wisdom type of thing. People have the data, but respond to it in two ways (in this case, either sensing that Muslims will try to take over Europe, or ignoring the large influx of unassimilating Muslim immigrants).

29 posted on 05/31/2007 2:09:00 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: confederatetrappedinmidwest
The post you responded to clearly and explicitly pointed out that American culture is descended from European civilization--so you didn't need to take up most of your responding post mentioning that.

The vast majority of the American population--not only 'whites;' the vast majority of 'blacks' and Amerindians, too--are of European ancestry. However, there are some--in particular immigrants--who do not have ancestral ties to Europe. The post merely sought to point out that these people are every bit as much American as those who are of European ancestry. Although their genes might not hail from Europe, their culture does.

And that culture (hopefully) will at some point mature enough that it is considered to be an American civilization distinct from European (Western) civilization (just as Western civilization had roots in other civilizations but has 'evolved' into a civilization in its own right).

30 posted on 05/31/2007 2:18:35 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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