Posted on 05/30/2007 3:34:26 PM PDT by rellimpank
Americans -- at least really stupid Americans like George Bush -- believe the natural state of the world is to have individual self-determination, human rights, the rule of law and a robust democratic economy. On this view, most of the existing world and almost all of world history is a freakish aberration.
In fact, the natural state of the world is Darfur. The freakish aberration is America and the rest of the Anglo-Saxon world.
The British Empire once spread the culture of prosperity around the globe -- Judeo-Christian values, tolerance, equality, private property and the rule of law. All recipients of the British Empire's largesse benefited, but the empire's most successful colony was the United States.
(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...
Oh please, let’s just stop the insults and the guilt-tripping, will you? Did I say anywhere that I wanted anything socialist, or wanted millions of immigrants to come in and not be assimilated? Just because I still support our President, and a lot of our Republican party, I’m supposed to be ashamed of myself? What in the crap has happened to FR? Is it a sin all of a sudden to support our President and our Republican Party?
For heaven’s sake, I’m not an idiot! I’m perfectly capable of deciding who to support or not. I’m also smart enough to look over this bill, and decide what has merit, and what I don’t like and should be discarded. There is a lot I don’t like. But that is my right to decide.
You have no right to interpret it for me unless I ask you to! You also have no right to shame me into a corner for supporting our President basically, whether I support this issue (immigration bill)or not! Yes, I still like and support our President in almost everything, and If you don’t like it, that’s your own problem!
So cheer up! Maybe he’ll get impeached, and our Vice-President, and then you’ll get Pelosi or her crew in their place. Or you’ll get Hillary, or B. Obama, or someone like that. Maybe they’ll solve all of your problems for you! I don’t think they’ll build a wall around the US, or deport many people, etc. In fact, they’ll probably let plenty in there just about election time like they did when B. Clinton was in there. But hey, you’ll get GWB, DC, and all of the rest of his admin. out of your face, won’t you?
You won’t have to worry about them anymore. Then maybe you’ll be happy then, and all of you Bush/Republican bashers will be satisfied that you are rid of them! If you’re not, then we don’t have to put up with all of the belly-aching from all of you anymore! (Good Grief!)
P.S. We probably won’t have any conservative websites anymore, so you won’t have to put up with “Bushbots” either. That should make you happy too, won’t it? Enjoy!
Come brother - go get her. I will act as a reference.
ha, I can believe it.
..Bush was a hair's breath away from pusing this comprehensive illegal immigration on us in late summer, 2001.
He & Vicente Fox were thick as thieves during that time, I remember, and this was coming down the pike like a freight train...
..although most Americans weren't paying too much attention.
Then 9/11 happened, and this was put on a back burner....
Now he's really trying to make it happen as he always planned to.
Am I on or off track?
The anger, the harsh words, the empty feeling, the utter despair, the raw emotion and the bitterness is more pronounced in dedicated adherents who support someone for years with body, soul, time, energy and money, only to be betrayed in the end.
Can you understand this? It's human nature.
We reached high. The fall is harder for us.
This is why you're reading what you consider "hate" on this forum when the outpourings of honest, visceral feelings are being expressed by the finest and most staunch conservatives here. We've been knocked down hard and can't seem to get up right now.
We're into stark reality here, and some still don't get it. Reality has hit us in the face like a cold, dead mackerel and the stench is engulfing the country. The heady victory days of '94 and 2000 are gone and are being swiftly replaced by Orwell's 1984.
Please don't look for too many bouquets of roses for the President any more. You'll be disappointed. Join the club.
Are we conservatives really expected to remain steadfast in a romance that one party to the love affair has irreparably broken off?
Leni
That assumes they all come here to work, they do not. That's also one of the biggest rat talking points out there.
Yep, I’m back.
You’re totally on track. 100%.
We’ve been had.
You said: They are doing jobs Americans aren’t doing
That assumes they all come here to work, they do not. That’s also one of the biggest rat talking points out there.
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Your observation may very well be correct. If things today were like the “good old days” then whether or not immigrants worked when they got here would be of little concern to us. There were no welfare and other entitlements now available to anyone able to cross our borders legally or illegally. Self-reliance, self-determination and an effort to assimilate were bare minimum requirements of becoming successful in this country. Those traits still lead to sucess, but comfortable living, relative to the conditions most immigrants come here to escape, are available for free to anyone who makes it here. A return to those days before the entitlement mentality set in would resolve most of the economic concerns.
Of greater concern to me, these days, is the issue of security. We simply MUST secure the borders so as to be able to account for anyone coming into this country. It is not a question of racism but self-defense. There is an added bonus regarding immigration regulation, but I continue to be amazed at the security risks we continue to assume daily because of our porous borders.
I don’t care who comes here to work. To the extent Americans don’t want the jobs at the pay level offered, I think we should welcome all immigrants, provided that they neither vote nor receive entitlement status until citizenship is achieved. This, with some work around the edges, would become a largely self-executing policy. Just as Ann Coulter observed, those who didn’t fit in, or didn’t work, would just go home, finding no free lunch here. Those who do come here and work hard (or find others willing to provide for them other than the governement) should be welcome. We are at full employment. We do need these workers.
I only wish there were a way to deport the lazy slugs who were lucky enough to be born citizens of this country. (I bet they would be a lot less lazy if they could not rely upon govt (us taxpayers, that is) for a living.)
I couldn't agree more. That, and only that, is my biggest concern.
It is just about over after we include 30 million new "wards of the State"
Sorry to have to tell you but that’s 30 Billion.
I think there are only about 6 billion in the whole world...but then, I may be arithetically challenged.
Sure there is. Deport them and have them enter through the country legally.
bttt
We could also try putting lefty journos who complain about us rounding them up in jail instead of BP agents.
I was replying to his assertion that Bush was giving 30 million to Africa for aids.
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