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Comprehensive Crack-Up?
The American Spectator ^ | 5/31/2007 | W. James Antle III

Posted on 05/31/2007 3:10:09 AM PDT by OneHun

Comprehensive Crack-Up? By W. James Antle III Published 5/31/2007 12:09:09 AM

When President Bush traveled to Georgia Tuesday to promote the Senate immigration bill, he didn't sound like he was happy with the way the debate was going. "If you want to scare the American people, what you say is the bill's an amnesty bill," he complained. "That's empty political rhetoric trying to scare our citizens."

And that's not the rhetoric of a politician who feels like he is currently winning a policy battle. This debate wasn't supposed to get so heated. When a bipartisan group of senators announced the immigration deal two weeks ago, Democrats and Republicans alike were predicting swift passage, perhaps before Memorial Day weekend. What gives?

We've been down this road before. When the Democrats took control of Congress, it was widely assumed that President Bush would finally get the path to citizenship for illegal immigrants that his own party had denied him. But when Congress convened this year, there were reports that key Republican senators -- including a couple of presidential candidates -- were backtracking on an immigration partnership with Ted Kennedy.

Then Congressmen Jeff Flake and Luis Gutierrez introduced their bipartisan bill to a flurry of favorable editorials. Yet instead of blossoming into the fruitful immigration compromise Washington editorialists hoped for, the legislation quietly withered. Whenever a bipartisan consensus on this deeply controversial issue seems close at hand, fissures appear and ultimately nothing much happens.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; comprehensive; immigrantlist; immigration
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1 posted on 05/31/2007 3:10:10 AM PDT by OneHun
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To: OneHun

Bipartisanship is code for sacrificing core conservative principles for socialism.


2 posted on 05/31/2007 3:14:39 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: OneHun
"Whenever a bipartisan consensus on this deeply controversial issue seems close at hand, fissures appear and ultimately nothing much happens."

America does not trust her lawmakers. America needs a serious attempt made at enforcement and border security before any other revision considerations.

3 posted on 05/31/2007 3:22:10 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: azhenfud
The next “crisis” Congress will attack will be Social Security, another crisis caused by congressional neglect. We need to remove a lot of legislators, from both parties.

Jeb Bush for President? Never.

4 posted on 05/31/2007 3:27:16 AM PDT by paguch
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To: paguch

I will never vote for another Bush. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me a third time, just kill me.


5 posted on 05/31/2007 3:32:39 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: paguch

I’m finding there is a general aura of disgust and/or frustration with the Bush Administration and associated legislators right now - even among GOP hardliners.


6 posted on 05/31/2007 3:34:18 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: azhenfud

I agree with you. This might seem completely crazy, but I suspect that even abject losers like Al Sharpton and Dennis Kucinich would stand a good chance of beating Bush in a head-to-head presidential election right now.


7 posted on 05/31/2007 3:43:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: azhenfud
I’m finding there is a general aura of disgust and/or frustration with the Bush Administration and associated legislators right now - even among GOP hardliners

My question is what took them so long?

Bush has presided over:

1) Loss of the Senate

2) Loss of the House

3) Failure to make tax cuts permanent

4) Illegal immigration / Amnesty

5) The borders

6) The arrest of Border Guards doing their job!

7) Shall I list more?

8 posted on 05/31/2007 3:56:03 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: azhenfud

I hardly call the president and twelve senators agreeing bi-partisan anything


9 posted on 05/31/2007 3:57:33 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: OneHun

I don’t recall other mentions of the provisions on the “Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) of North America” in this proposed legislation. Can anyone else provide links that illuminate this?

Immigration ‘Compromise’ Sells Out Our Sovereignty
by Ron Paul
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst052507.htm

The much-vaunted Senate “compromise” on immigration is a compromise alright: a compromise of our laws, a compromise of our sovereignty, and a compromise of the Second Amendment. That anyone in Washington believes this is a credible approach to solving our immigration crisis suggests just how out of touch our political elites really are.

The reality is that this bill will grant amnesty to virtually all of the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in the country today. Supporters use very creative language to try and convince us that amnesty is not really amnesty, but when individuals who have entered the United States illegally are granted citizenship – regardless of the fees they are charged – what you have is amnesty.

What is seldom discussed in the immigration debate, unfortunately, is the incentives the US government provides for people to enter the United States illegally. As we know well, when the government subsidizes something we get more of it. The government provides a myriad of federal welfare benefits to those who come to the US illegally, including food stamps and free medical care. Is this a way to discourage people from coming to the US illegally?

Additionally, one of the most absurd incentives for people to come to the US illegally is the promise of instant US citizenship to anyone born on our soil. That is why when Congress returns next week I will be re-introducing my Constitutional amendment to deny automatic citizenship to individuals born on US soil to parents who are not US citizens or who do not owe permanent allegiance to the United States.

There are many other very troubling items buried deep in the Senate’s immigration compromise. The bill explicitly calls for an “acceleration” of the March 2005 agreement between the US president, the president of Mexico, and the prime minister of Canada, known as the “Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) of North America.” This somewhat secretive agreement – a treaty in all but name – aims to erase the borders between the United States, Canada, and Mexico and threatens our sovereignty and national security. The SPP was agreed by the president without the participation of Congress. It should be eliminated, not accelerated!

According to the pro-Second Amendment Gun Owners of America, the legislation also makes it easier to target gun dealers for prosecution. Even gun clubs could find themselves targeted under this immigration reform legislation.

Immigration reform should start with improving our border protection, yet it was reported last week that the federal government has approved the recruitment of 120 of our best trained Border Patrol agents to go to Iraq to train Iraqis how to better defend their borders! This comes at a time when the National Guard troops participating in Operation Jump Start are being removed from border protection duties in Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas and preparing to deploy to Iraq and Afghanistan! It is an outrage and it will result in our borders being more vulnerable to illegal entry, including by terrorists.

I will continue to oppose any immigration bill that grants amnesty to illegals or undermines our liberty and sovereignty.


10 posted on 05/31/2007 4:29:15 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: OneHun
Team Bush 2, who brought you:



now brings you the Comprehensive Immigration Bill that really isn’t amnesty for illegals — honest, it isn’t — it is just regularizing them, giving them social security in 44 months (so what if you have to wait 40 quarters to qualify, where's your compassion for those poor illegals newly regularized Americans?), free health care (at your expense), free education (at your expense). Suck it up. It is good for America. We need more lettuce pickers because you Americans won't do that job and you are addicted to lettuce.


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11 posted on 05/31/2007 5:07:31 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: azhenfud
Bush2 is close to replacing Herbert Hoover of The Great Depression as the worst GOP president in history.

If GW keeps pushing this amnesty and does end up signing it, George W Bush of The Great Invasion will have succeeded in replacing Jimmy Carter as the worst president in history.

But, Bush2, like Jimmy Carter even now, is trying to latch on to a legacy. He has already ceded the WoT to a War Czar. About the only remaining opportunity GW has is amnesty for 12-20 million illegals.

Next year, the pols will be too busy with primaries, conventions, and the general election, so GW only has a few months to secure his legacy, and the Comprehensive Immigration fiasco is about the the only major legislation on the table.

12 posted on 05/31/2007 5:19:20 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: cbkaty

You left out a boob for attorney general. and a dunce for home land security. The biggest expansion of government employees in history, they biggest trailer purchase, etc, etc.


13 posted on 05/31/2007 5:23:26 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
the “Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) of North America.”

Many of those who used to cry 'tin foil alert' at the mention of SPP, NAU, TransHighway and the foreign port in Kansas City, are starting to wake up. They are amazed and astouned and shocked and surprised -- that these things are happening and close to being finalized right under their noses.

Many others still have their heads buried in the sand, however.
14 posted on 05/31/2007 5:23:29 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: OneHun

Mr. Bush, we no longer trust you to do your job. If we could, we’d fire you for malfeasance of office, because you have refused to secure the borders and enforce the immigration laws.

Also, last year’s border fence law required a fence to be built, and so far you have not seen to it that ANY of it is completed. And the immigration bill you are pimping reduces the amount of fencing way below the requirements of last year’s fence bill.

If the Dims were to begin impeachment, I would not defend you AT ALL.


15 posted on 05/31/2007 5:30:39 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: org.whodat
dunce for home land security.

I hope I don't offend the innocent, but he (Chertoff) resembles a last stage AIDS patient.

16 posted on 05/31/2007 5:35:36 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: TomGuy
I am convinced had the economic situation of America done more than hiccuped, President Bush would have suffered scathing impeachment attempts from his administration's and the GOP's associated incompetence.

That possibility hasn't totally expired yet. When, through incompetent stubbornness, one damages the public credibility of the party that's their lifeline of political support, well - we're all smart enough to realize where that puts one in the political playing field.

17 posted on 05/31/2007 5:38:26 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: OneHun

O.K., Jorge; you’ve been in Washington too long and have become tainted. Get Laura and the dog and go on back to Crawford and turn the last two years over to Dick.


18 posted on 05/31/2007 5:39:30 AM PDT by no dems ( Dear God, how much longer are you going to let Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd live?)
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To: cbkaty

Congratulations. I nominate you to join the ranks of Natttering Negative Nabobs


19 posted on 05/31/2007 5:44:16 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: cbkaty
Might be easier to list what he has done right:

1) Tax cuts (impermanent).
2) Quick military victories in Afghanistan and Iraq (impermanent).
3) Justices Roberts and Alito (after a misstep).
4) Social conservative sensibility in the White House (vetoing stem cell funding).
5) Routinely enraging the moonbat Left without really trying, providing endless humor for dispassionate observers. ;)

Those are things we would never have gotten from Gore or Kerry. But for a Republican President who had a nominally Republican House and Senate to work with for six years, it's not a very long list.

20 posted on 05/31/2007 5:46:14 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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