Immigration: The Ellis Island Solution

Creators Syndicate ^ | Thursday, May 31, 2007 | Matt Towery

[IrishMike]

Did you read post #15 ?
We’re from the same boat - so to speak.

[gubamyster]

ping

[mtbopfuyn]

The illegal aliens are not interested being assets to the US or obeying our laws...

Ding, ding! We have a winner! Of course they aren't interested or they'd have done it the right way.

[ears_to_hear]

We are on the same page Mike.

One thing few Americans know is about 1/2 of all the immigrants that came to America left and returned home when they could not “make it” here.

There was no “safety net” except their sponsors. There was no welfare or medicare .

Think about it, the people that built America were the survivors, the ones willing to risk everything to come here and that had the ability, the skills and the intelligence to make it in a foreign land with a different language.

Today we get the freeloaders that come wanting to live in our safety net.

That does not bode well for this nations future

[IrishMike]

Today we get the freeloaders that come wanting to live in our safety net.
That does not bode well for this nations future
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For two obvious reasons-
1. We (the country)get the loosers
2. DRats get the voters

[ears_to_hear]

yep

[norton]

"Actually, most Irish immigrants came though Castle Garden, NOT Ellis Island. Many also came trough Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and New Orleans."

As did many other immigrants before Ellis Island was constructed as a response to the demand. Demand created by open and legitimate efforts to become a part of this nation.

This time 'our' response to illegal immigration is not an improved means of legal entry but a legalization of criminal behavior, increased risk of imported disease, and - oh yeah - a free pass for any terrorists already in our midst or in route.

"Diversity" instead of assimilation / suicide instead of strengthening.

[Gideon Reader]

Yep. My grandparents and an infant uncle, entered through Gov.Clinton’s Castle/Castle Garden, in New York City in the late 1870’s and one shortly thereafter through the U.S.Canada land border after her transportation vessel foundered and was taken into tow off New Foundland.
All were working (but NOT at their trades)the day after arrival and all, though speaking several Eastern and Central European languages, Portugese and French with fluency,Spanish and Italian less well, albeit not English, quickly learned and became self sufficient. They proudly relished the fact that they were Americans and maintained photos of the President and flag, prominently displayed in the parlors of each residence.
The Ellis Island/Statute of Liberty phenomena is a fine idea and some sort of control is desperately needed.
However, I am not so sure that the current wave of immigrants, NO, make that ILLEGAL ALIENS, actually want to be Americans or just want to freely feed and accrue the benefits they believe is due them. We absolutely NEED to plug the Border leaks in this ship of state before it sinks to the bottom. Bailing; the control of illegals already here, is not as hard as some would have you believe. All that is required is the political will and integrity of our alleged national leaders to put right what has been administratively created by stupidity, sloth and incompetence.

[Clemenza]

Demand created by open and legitimate efforts to become a part of this nation..

Revisionist nonsense if I am reading you right. Most of the Southern and Eastern European immigrants settled in insular ethnic ghettos, did NOT intermarry/assimilate into the larger population, and had their own newspapers/media. My great-grandmother spent 40 of her 65 years in the US (a Polish enclave in Newark), without speaking the language.

HOWEVER, none of these groups, with the exception of an anarchist/communist minority, sought to overthrow the existing order, or tell the majority culture how to live their lives.

Acculturate, respect the majority culture, and don't take the route that certain native-born minorities have taken, ie accept your role as a "permanent minority" entitled to affirmative action, white guilt, etc, and you are OK with me.

Unfortunately, the "culture of entitlement" among the illegal amigos makes me see a Brazil-like future, ie white folks (and those of other races who have "made it") living behind razor wire, while a brown and black proletariat lurks outside, forever resentful and supportive of "populist" candidates that will leave us to Mobocracy.

[YankeeReb]

A fence does nothing to solve the problem we already have

On a sinking ship first you plug the hole , then you get the pumps going.

[livius]

Er, that would be the 12 million people who are already here. Which was what the article was about, although that appears to have been forgotten by people dreaming of the magic fence.

Frankly, I hold the latter group directly responsible for this miserable bill. No one had any good, realistic or foresighted solutions. All we had was raving about the magic fence. And now we’re stuck with a horrible bill that solves no problems whatsoever.

[William Terrell]

The simplest problem with the bill is that the provisions that enable will be enforced and the those that restrict will not. None of the present illegal immigration regulations are enforced with any kind of will or vigor, so what makes us think that regulations in the new legislation will be?

[Gene Eric]

>> Immigration: The Ellis Island Solution

So forget the wall and construct a moat with a sandbar called Elárez Island.

[IrishMike]

So forget the wall and construct a moat with a sandbar called Elárez Island.
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I’d like to see both actually.
For starters.