[dennisw]

If you pay a penalty, it is not amnesty. The demagogues who will not accept any sort of compromise........

Why don't you tell me what the penalty is when an illegal gets his probationary Z VISA? Do you know?
Once he gets that probationary Z VISA he is legal. He is home free. He doesn't have to do anymore though he can eventually apply for green card and citizenship. Not that I know why he would even bother

[Unam Sanctam]

Why don't you tell me what the penalty is when an illegal gets his probationary Z VISA?

They have to pay the thousand dollars, and they have to continue to comply with the requirements of the Z visa to retain the visa, thus if they are unemployed and go on welfare, they will no longer be in status.