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To: Unam Sanctam
“If you pay a penalty, it is not amnesty.”

Wrong. Offering a pathway to citizenship is amnesty.

Therefore it is not a compromise.

Do you have any idea where the trillions of dollars this will cost come from? Hint: The taxpayer.

The public is overwhelmingly against this bill. The numbers of people who are against it is growing every day.

Tighten border security, have strict workplace enforcement and the illegals will self deport. This has been proven time and time again to work. Whenever there’s a raid on a company...the local shanty towns are vacated overnight.

The bill provides for 60+million to emigrate under the family plan.

The whorehouse admits to 20+ million here illegally.

See here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1768750/posts?page=1

You might want to try a little less BS and come up with some facts next time.

18 posted on 05/31/2007 7:40:31 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
“If you pay a penalty, it is not amnesty.” Wrong. Offering a pathway to citizenship is amnesty. Therefore it is not a compromise.

This makes no sense. You do not address the issue. Since a penalty is paid, it is not amnesty, which means the absence of any penalty.

Do you have any idea where the trillions of dollars this will cost come from? Hint: The taxpayer.

The taxpayer will always have to pay for the funding of any public services, just as they would pay for massive deportation and enforcement. Those with provisional Z visas are required to work. If they do not, they lose their status.

The public is overwhelmingly against this bill. The numbers of people who are against it is growing every day.

In a representative democracy, the elected legislators are to use their best judgment for the common good. If the voters don't agree, they can vote them out at the next election. Also, polling results depend on how the question is phrased, by the way, so I don't think they necessarily mean much.

Tighten border security, have strict workplace enforcement and the illegals will self deport. This has been proven time and time again to work. Whenever there’s a raid on a company...the local shanty towns are vacated overnight.

The bill takes practical measures to heighten border security and improve the employment identification system. But of course opponents would prefer to do nothing at all to improve enforcement and remain with the broken down status quo.

The bill provides for 60+million to emigrate under the family plan.

No, the bill provides that the backlog of family-based petitions THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN FILED be resolved within a period of years. Going forward, family based immigration is much more restrictive than at present. But of course opponents never mention that.

The whorehouse admits to 20+ million here illegally.

If you're not going to deport them, then it is better to legalize and assimilate those currently illegally in the country. Those like George Will who are comfortable with the status quo of a large underclass of illegals are not practical and are undermining the rule of law.

25 posted on 05/31/2007 7:54:36 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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