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Building a North American Community
Council on Foreign Relations ^

Posted on 05/31/2007 1:32:46 PM PDT by processing please hold

As liberal democracies, the governments also share common principles: protecting individual rights,upholding the rule of law, and ensuring equality of opportunity for their citizens. North America, in short, is more than an expression of geography. It is a partnership of sovereign states with overlapping economic and security interests, where major developments in one country can and do have a powerful impact on the other two.

CommunityLaw Enforcement and Military Cooperation Security cooperation among the three countries should also extend to cooperation on counterterrorism and law enforcement, which would include the establishment of a trinational threat intelligence center, the development of trinational ballistics and explosives registration, and joint training for law enforcement officials.

• Develop a North American Border Pass. The three countries should develop a secure North American Border Passwith biometric identifiers. This document would allow its bearers expedited passage through customs, immigration, and airport security throughout the region. The program would be modeled on the U.S.-Canadian ‘‘NEXUS’’ and the U.S.-Mexican ‘‘SENTRI’’ programs, which Recommendations 9 provide ‘‘smart cards’’ to allow swifter passage to those who pose no risk. Only those who voluntarily seek, receive, and pay the costs for a security clearance would obtain a Border Pass. The pass would be accepted at all border points within North America as a complement to, but not a replacement for, national identity documents

(Excerpt) Read more at cfr.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; nau; spp
They want to expand NORAD into a multiservice Defense Command. Also, open skies and open roads. I've read this thing three times and each time it only gets worse what they have in store for us.

Some of it's going to make you do a double take. Mexico talks about illegal border crossers and drug dealers, like they're coming from here to their country.

Has anyone else read this report?

1 posted on 05/31/2007 1:32:48 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: processing please hold
It's the 'Z' Visa.

I haven't read this but I will now, thanks for posting the link. I remember hearing about this CFR plan but is was back during Bush 1 if I'm not mistaken.
2 posted on 05/31/2007 1:41:22 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: processing please hold
The Task Force on the Future of North America is sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations
with the
Canadian Council of Chief Executives
and the
Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internacionales.
3 posted on 05/31/2007 1:43:01 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: K-oneTexas

I searched all over for a date. It says final report but when it was written I don’t know. I may have over looked the date I was so blinded by outrage.


4 posted on 05/31/2007 1:44:22 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold
As liberal democracies, the governments also share common principles: protecting individual rights,upholding the rule of law...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Surely this clown isn't including Mexico in this group, is he?

"Upholding the rule of law..." That's rich!

5 posted on 05/31/2007 1:45:11 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: processing please hold

No, I haven’t found a date either. The only date is 2005 regarding a joint statement. Maybe this is Round 2 or Round 3, as I’m sure the Clinton Administration would have no problem with it.


6 posted on 05/31/2007 1:46:15 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: processing please hold
Has anyone else read this report?

I have read this report, and it frightens me that so many of our political leaders and candidates are members or former members of the CFR.

I am in favor of expanding opportunities through trade. I am not in favor of establishing a North American Community that would erase borders and create an EU situation in north America.

7 posted on 05/31/2007 1:46:42 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic ■Št gehate, ■Št ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille fur­or gan)
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To: K-oneTexas
The most recent date I see on it is in ‘05. Not Bush 1 but Bush 2 presidency.
8 posted on 05/31/2007 1:47:46 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: TChris

I said parts will cause people to do a double take...and this was one of them.


9 posted on 05/31/2007 1:49:30 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: K-oneTexas
Anyone who’s for open borders and one world ideologies, and the NAU will have no problem with it.
10 posted on 05/31/2007 1:51:18 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: SittinYonder
I have read this report, and it frightens me that so many of our political leaders and candidates are members or former members of the CFR.

It reads like a who's who with our politicians. Very frightening.

I'm in favor of trade as well, just not the kind they have in mind.

11 posted on 05/31/2007 1:54:22 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold
To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of peoples, products and capital will be legal, orderly and safe.

The CFR is a creature of transnational elites who have more in common with each other than with the middle or lower classes of their own countries. It's the same thinking that is behind the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board push for "open borders."

They don't have as much patriotic attachment to America as a country as they do to their own privileged lifestyle. On this score, they have something in common with lefties like the Clintons who want Americans to give up their sovereignty to a North American and, ultimately, a "world union" in which Third Worlders (as represented by their corrupt kleptocrat leaders) will have a much larger say in making the rules that Americans must follow in our own land.

12 posted on 05/31/2007 1:57:14 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: processing please hold
Task Force Members Nelson W. Cunningham* is Managing Partner of Kissinger McLarty Associates, the international strategic advisory firm. He advised John Kerry’s 2004 presidential campaign on international economic and foreign policy issues, and previously served in the Clinton WhiteHouse as Special Adviser to the President for Western Hemisphere Affairs. He earlier served as a lawyer at the White House, as Senate Judiciary Committee General Counsel under then-chairman Joseph Biden, and as a federal prosecutor in New York.

That's a relief, sKerry's people worked on it. Now I feel better.

13 posted on 05/31/2007 1:59:09 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

This may help.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/5979.shtml

Sep 26, 2006 Contact: Press Office
202-646-5188

Newly Uncovered Commerce Department Documents Detail “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America”

U.S. Government Working Groups & Business Leaders Seek to “Harmonize” Regulations with Canada and Mexico

(Washington, DC) — Judicial Watch, the public interest organization that promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law, today released records obtained under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) from the International Trade Administration of the U.S. Department of Commerce concerning the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.”

On March 23, 2005, heads of government Vincente Fox, George W. Bush, and Paul Martin launched the North American partnership at a meeting in Waco, Texas, with the expressed goal of “a safer, more prosperous North America.” According to the documents, the partnership’s “working groups” include government and business leaders from the United States, Mexico and Canada, who are addressing a variety of topics, including movement of goods between countries, traveler security, energy, environment and health. Proponents of the partnership claim its purpose is to increase security and prosperity for all three nations through enhanced cooperation. Critics maintain the partnership will sacrifice U.S. sovereignty by establishing a “North American Union,” with open borders and a common currency.

The Commerce Department also provided substantial documentation concerning the North American Competitiveness Council. The council consists of 30 members, 10 each from the United States, Mexico and Canada. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Council of the Americas “agreed to jointly lead the U.S. Secretariat.” Documents describing the North American Competitiveness Council’s launch, its recommendations, and meeting minutes were also uncovered by Judicial Watch’s FOIA request, which was filed on August 15, 2006.

The council’s recommendations to the North American “partnership” include advice on how to handle an international disease outbreak: “It is also essential that throughout a pandemic all borders and major roads remain open…” With respect to border enforcement, the council recommends that, “A reasonable grace period should be established at border crossings, during which time people lacking documents are educated about their options and allowed to pass.” The council also makes recommendations on energy issues such as the “…enhanced integration of the Mexican [electricity] grid with that of the United States.”

“Many Americans are interested in where this North American partnership process is going,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Given all that is at stake, the federal government has a responsibility to make sure this process is transparent and open to public scrutiny — so the release of these documents is an important step forward.”

The newly released documents include contact lists, meeting agenda and minutes, recommendations, fact sheets, speakers’ quotes, action items, and procedural guidelines. The records are available on the Judicial Watch Internet site: www.JudicialWatch.org.

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Select from the list below to view the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America” FOIA Documents

Section I - SPP Contact Lists and Organization Charts
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/SPPFOIADocsSecI.pdf

Section II - SPP Regulatory Cooperation Symposium
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/SPPFOIADocsSecII.pdf

Section III - SPP Meeting with Commerce Secretary Gutierrez, March 15, 2006.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/SPPFOIADocsSecIII.pdf

Section IV - Launch of the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC), May 26, 2006.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/SPPFOIADocsSecIV.pdf

Section V - Final Recommendations of the U.S. Section of the NACC.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/SPPFOIADocsSecV.pdf

Section VI - Launch of the NACC with SPP Ministers, June 15, 2006.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/SPPFOIADocsSecVI.pdf

Section VII - NACC Documents
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/SPPFOIADocsSecVII.pdf

Section VIII - Prof. Robert A. Pastor’s Seminar on Building a North American Community, September 21, 2005.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/SPPFOIADocsSecVIII.pdf


14 posted on 05/31/2007 2:00:13 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
They're all elitist. They have no idea how to live in the real world so they try to create one for their own benefits.

The disconnect between our government and we the people is staggering.

They don't have as much patriotic attachment to America as a country as they do to their own privileged lifestyle.

That's it. Shameful and also traitorous.

15 posted on 05/31/2007 2:03:28 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: sageb1
Here's the picture that goes with your post.

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Thanks for the links. Bookmarked.

16 posted on 05/31/2007 2:06:50 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: sageb1
Prof. Robert A. Pastor

I think I seen his name a million times and everytime I do it my stomach turns.

17 posted on 05/31/2007 2:09:26 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold
It reads like a who's who with our politicians. Very frightening.

It used to mean absolutely nothing to me. A candidate is a member of the CFR? Big deal.

Now, though, I'm growing more convinced that the CFR is driving legislation and what what we believe is good for America is less important to our elected representatives than what the CFR tells them is good for America.

I am nearly to the point that membership in the CFR or an identifiable cozy relationship with CFR members is enough to preclude any candidate from getting my vote.

cue whoever is going to post for my edification a list of Reagan's folks who were members of CFR

18 posted on 05/31/2007 2:09:31 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic ■Št gehate, ■Št ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille fur­or gan)
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To: processing please hold

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55830


19 posted on 05/31/2007 2:09:38 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: SittinYonder

The North American Union is scheduled to come into being in 2010. Not maybe. Definitely. The Presidents Illegal Alien bill is part of that progress. It’s happening. Believe it and fight for your freedom. We can’t let this happen.


20 posted on 05/31/2007 2:10:52 PM PDT by Frwy (We need to get those crats to stop the Demo.)
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To: processing please hold

Oh, my God. CFR thinks we should call all these illegals...’trusted travelers’. No papers, go where ever you like, stay as long as you like, do as you please. Whatever. Insanity.


21 posted on 05/31/2007 2:12:13 PM PDT by hershey
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To: SittinYonder
Just Google "North American Union" and read the article names for an education in what's coming. If you really care, read some of the articles.
22 posted on 05/31/2007 2:15:19 PM PDT by Frwy (We need to get those crats to stop the Demo.)
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To: SittinYonder
Now, though, I'm growing more convinced that the CFR is driving legislation and what what we believe is good for America is less important to our elected representatives than what the CFR tells them is good for America.

IMO, many are coming to that realization.

I am nearly to the point that membership in the CFR or an identifiable cozy relationship with CFR members is enough to preclude any candidate from getting my vote.

That a group of unelected people in this organization could hold such sway over our lives is unbelievable.

It appears they are telling our elected leaders what to do, to hell with the voters who put them there.

23 posted on 05/31/2007 2:18:11 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold
Found this, not quite a quarter of the way down the page, at http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TreasonAbounds.html

 

[snip]

Who's Responsible For The Massive Push To Sell America Out From Underneath Us?

It is a fact that the direct selling of our infrastructure to foreign countries is in violation of the Constitution, Article I, Section 10, Clause 3.  It is also a fact that such sales are in direct contravention of the Exon-Florio laws which mandates the prohibition of "foreign direct investment in maritime, aircraft, banking, resources and power."  Why then is the Committee on Foreign Investment in the US (CFIUS), which conveniently falls under the aegis of the U.S. Treasury Department, and individual local or state governments being allowed to continue doing so with regularity and rapidly accelerating speed?

As for WHY our infrastructure is being auctioned off to the highest bidder, mostly foreign investors, the answer is because George H. W. Bush, a One World Monopolist, wrote and signed an Executive Order (E.O.) 12803 on April 30, 1992 commanding that it be done.  That E.O. was published in only two places, Cornell University and on waterindustry.org.

Executive Order 12803, Section 1 under 'Definitions' it states the following . . . "For the purpose of this order:

(a) 'Privatization' means the disposition of or transfer of an infrastructure asset [read taxpayer funded and owned], such as by sale or by long-term lease, from State or local government to a private party.

(b) 'Infrastructure asset' means any asset financed in whole or in part by the Federal Government [read taxpayer financed] and needed for the functioning of the economy [if we need it why are we selling it?].  Examples of such assets include, but are not limited to: roads, tunnels, bridges, electricity supply facilities, mass transit, rail transportation, airports, ports, waterways, water supply facilities, recycling and wastewater treatment facilities, solid waste disposal facilities, housing, schools, prisons and hospitals."  A BREATHTAKING LIST!

Following Bush's lead, Bill Clinton, issued another unlawful Executive order E.O. 12893, which, just like all the actions prompted by the Shadow Government, is ALSO a little known fact.

You can find a comprehensive list of America's taxpayer financed roads being sold to the highest bidder via Public Private Partnerships (PPP).  Take note that the word 'partnerships' is a euphemistic term which really means the fascist blending of private (corporate) and public (government) in 'partnerships' to the everlasting detriment of America's security and sovereignty, not to mention the violation of our Constitution and laws.

There are even seminars provided to teach state and local government officials how to go about selling our taxpayer financed infrstructures to foreign private investment groups.  There will be a "North American Private Partnerships Intensive Seminar, . . . held at the Hyatt Regency in Miami, March 19 to 21 [2007].  The cost will be $3,500 [probably paid by taxpayer dollars] per attendee."

Our country is being sold out from beneath us, often to foreign entities who will control them in times of national emergencies and in violation of the Exon-Florio law and our Constitution.  All is being accomplished while many Americans remain uninformed by the media AND those who loudly object are being ignored or silenced by the fascist One World Monopolists, in collusion with the corrupt main stream media, in their drive to conquer America from within.

[snip 

24 posted on 05/31/2007 2:21:19 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: YellowRoseofTx
We'll find out in September what our politicans think about it. If they jump the wrong way...look out. We're becoming a tinderbox where this disappearing border and rising NAU is concerned.

September will get here.

25 posted on 05/31/2007 2:21:29 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Frwy

I agree. That’s all I can say on it if I don’t want to get banned.


26 posted on 05/31/2007 2:24:07 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

The impetus for North American integration in this country has been from the large, multinational businesses based here which hope that a larger, integrated market will be more efficient and more profitable for them. This motivation is purely economic on their part.

This newer rationale for integration, since 9/11, of concern for security is simply eyewash for the gullible to try to increase support for integration.

Weakening the borders between the US and Canada and Mexico, and instead relying on the diligence and effectiveness of the external Mexican and Canadian third-country border controls, does not enhance our national security, it weakens it.

A violent uprising in Chiapas against the Mexican government would not be a Mexican security problem, but a North American security problem.

When the foolish Canadians allow Islamic radicals to set up shop in Canada under the guise of political asylum, and roam freely while being paid government benefits, it will be as much our problem as theirs.

Of course, our own border controls are not very good at the moment. But weakening them would be moving in the exact opposite direction of what is needed.


27 posted on 05/31/2007 2:25:01 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: hershey
Oh, my God. CFR thinks we should call all these illegals...’trusted travelers’. No papers, go where ever you like, stay as long as you like, do as you please. Whatever. Insanity.

Our homes will become armed fortresses. Millions upon millions upon millions wandering in our country, and they'll have the right to be here.

I don't think this country will hold together when that happens if you know what I mean.

It's Insanity with a capital 'I.'

28 posted on 05/31/2007 2:28:10 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: K-oneTexas
I've been reading about a shadow government. I wonder how many FReepers have.

Nopardons and I got into an argument one time about a year ago when I said our country is being sold piece by piece out from under us. She said it wasn't true.

Reading what you posted, I don't know whether to spit, cuss, cry, pray or fight, maybe a combination of all five.

Thank you for the link.

29 posted on 05/31/2007 2:35:35 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
I agree with your post 100%. You are spot on.

This newer rationale for integration, since 9/11, of concern for security is simply eyewash for the gullible to try to increase support for integration.

And it's being lapped up by the gullible like mothers milk.

30 posted on 05/31/2007 2:39:04 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: SittinYonder
Just cast your peepers on this and other articles you can readily find by Googling "The Council on Foreign Relations". One of the first bits of info you will learn is that CFR founder House, was a Marxist who's aim was to destroy the Constitution of the US and set about the New world Order. Just read

"The Council on Foreign Relations - And the Trilateral Commission - The two organizations that run the United States by Melvin Sickler" at http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/cfr.html

Be prepared for an eye opening experience. This is all stuff the John Birch Society tried to (and does to this very day) get us to understand and rail against for decades. Or just continue to deny it and sit back and watch it happening. You are absolutely right to consider membership in the CRF and Trilateral Commission as lethal. Knowledge is power. Get knowledge.

32 posted on 05/31/2007 3:00:24 PM PDT by Frwy (We need to get those crats to stop the Demo.)
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To: processing please hold
It is amazing when you start reading about the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Trilateral Commission , The Illuminati and the Bilderberg Group.

Especially when you read the earlier history of the in the US and Europe. It will amaze some who's names are associated with these groups over the years. Most of our Presidents and others highly placed in the Government (Congress, Executive and Judicial) as well as the military.

An interesting book published in 1962 was 'The Invisible Government' by Dan Smoot. He took a lifetime "beating" (figuratively) from writing it. Also some others were written by Gary Allen ('The Rockefeller File'  and 'None Dare Call it Conspiracy') and the 'CFR Part II' by Pheobe Courtney. All these books are old but quite interesting.

Even Bubba Clinton's old Professor, Carroll Quigley, called 'Tragedy and Hope' discussing some of these issues. Theres is even one on nonprofit and such called 'Foundations: Their Power and Influence' by Rene A. Wormser.

The Conspiracy Archive is on-line at http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/  and has many writings on this subject. Probably many more sites to study the "conspiracy" and its more modern counterpart 'The Right Wing Conspiracy' made so popular by Bill and Hillary.

But I think you'll enjoy more the writings on 'One World Government' and the 'Globalist Conspiracy' that is debunked by so many liberals and Democrats today.  Maybe even more compelling and interesting reading that the UFO's and Roswell theories and possibly all the theories regarding Mason's.

 

33 posted on 05/31/2007 3:02:54 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: SittinYonder
You might find this very interesting.

The Council on Foreign Relations And the Trilateral Commission-The two Organizations that run the United States

34 posted on 05/31/2007 3:08:23 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: K-oneTexas
But I think you'll enjoy more the writings on 'One World Government' and the 'Globalist Conspiracy' that is debunked by so many liberals and Democrats today.

Yep, I always believe what liberals and dims tell me. lol

I've not heard of the link in your post.

35 posted on 05/31/2007 3:20:29 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

The CFR is the rathole club for the New York Rockefeller RINOs and socialists. They’ve been talking their new world order talk for decades. Their magazine “Foreign Affairs” is filled with whacko plans to, for example, harmonize all laws via the UN. They’re constantly blabbing about new world order this, new world order that.

The CFR members become dangerous when they’re slipped into various administrations to push certain UN treaties. We are today living under the UN’s Biodiversity Treaty, rejected by the Senate in 1994. Even though rejected, Clinton illegally implemented the treaty under the President’s Council on Sustainable Development by ordering the federal fascist bureaucracy to write it into regulations.

That’s why you read so many stories of land owners being harassed for filling mud puddles or being denied the use of their property to protect some jumping kangaroo rat, all in violation of the individual’s sovereign right to legally use his lawful property.

Clinton, Babbitt, Holbrocke, they’re all CFR toadies whose goals are to destroy US sovereignty and place citizens under the rule of unelected bureaucrats, domestic and foreign.


36 posted on 05/31/2007 4:16:57 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50ó coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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To: sergeantdave
The CFR is the rathole club for the New York Rockefeller RINOs and socialists. They’ve been talking their new world order talk for decades. Their magazine “Foreign Affairs” is filled with whacko plans to, for example, harmonize all laws via the UN. They’re constantly blabbing about new world order this, new world order that.

It's starting to appear as though their hard work is about to pay off. You need only click on my name to see how I feel about the un. I see them for the threat they are to our sovereignty. Always have.

With our last few presidents working hand-n-hand with them this one will be tough to overcome. My eyes are set on September when the plan is brought before our elected officials. We'll see just how powerful they are then.

Clinton, Babbitt, Holbrocke, they’re all CFR toadies whose goals are to destroy US sovereignty and place citizens under the rule of unelected bureaucrats, domestic and foreign.

Needed to be said again.

37 posted on 05/31/2007 4:35:06 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

And it’s been going on since the 1920’s.


38 posted on 06/01/2007 3:21:30 AM PDT by Frwy (We need to get those crats to stop the Demo.)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

The only thing I’d add to this is that the CFR and Trilateral Commission are the “secret” organizations working this out. Our government is a willing pawn in it.


39 posted on 06/01/2007 3:27:56 AM PDT by Frwy (We need to get those crats to stop the Demo.)
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To: processing please hold
Have you read the book rule by Secrecy by Jim Marrs?

I haven't yet, but my dad did a few years ago. He told me some of the things about it, and this is what I think it was about. At the time he told me, I didn't really get it. When my dad died a couple of years ago, I looked for his book to bring home with me but it wasn't at his home.

40 posted on 06/01/2007 5:49:51 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Frwy
And it’s been going on since the 1920’s.

Yes it has. A master plan takes years to put into action. Their time is approaching.

41 posted on 06/01/2007 9:55:42 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

No I haven’t read that book. I’ll google it up and see if there’s anything about it.


42 posted on 06/01/2007 9:57:04 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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