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Fish shuts Delta water pumps [Enviro whackos shut down water in California]
Sacramento Bee ^ | May 31, 2007 | Matt Weiser

Posted on 05/31/2007 4:10:17 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan

State water officials Thursday morning stopped exporting water from the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta to protect the threatened Delta smelt, a tiny native fish that appears to be on the brink of extinction.

The action, announced in a press release by the California Department of Water Resources, could mean water shortages for some cities and farms served by the California Aqueduct, ....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: envirowhackos; healthypeople2010; two; unagenda; water
This is going to devastate agriculture in California. It's the other shoe we've been waiting for to drop for several months now.

It's going to be worse than the rolling blackouts of 2001. Mark my words.

1 posted on 05/31/2007 4:10:19 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: ElkGroveDan

Insanity — plain and simple.


2 posted on 05/31/2007 4:10:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

You might add stupid.


3 posted on 05/31/2007 4:12:43 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: ElkGroveDan

Farmers generate about $59 billion in personal income for Californians, or 6.6% of the state’s total annual personal income.

Agriculture supports 1.1 million jobs in California, accounting for about 7.4% of all employment.

Fresh and processed fruits, treenuts and vegetables have the greatest impact of any commodity group, leading to $30 billion in personal income and 567,000 jobs.

Animal products account for $11 billion in personal income and 214,000 jobs.

Food and feed grains account for $10 billion in personal income and 192,000 jobs.

Agriculture is especially significant to the economy of California’s Central Valley where it accounts for 21% of all income and 25% of all employment.


4 posted on 05/31/2007 4:14:27 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

The enviro- mentals would rather see humanity starve than a few minnows dry up in a pond.

Someone should shoot those anti- human Nazi sadists.


5 posted on 05/31/2007 4:15:13 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ElkGroveDan
It's going to be worse...

Yup. Not many know outside of CA that its' been a very dry year here; low reservoir levels.

Nationally, higher food prices. Locally, that, water rationing is right around the corner...

6 posted on 05/31/2007 4:17:46 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Why canít we start solving the problem by breaking up Big Government?"- MortMan)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Just by shutting down for 7-10 days will devastate the farmers?
7 posted on 05/31/2007 4:18:10 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: ElkGroveDan

Big deal they only found 25 at selected survey points. Who is to say fifty were not in other areas. I do not know how many years when the smelt run in Lake Michigan one year they are great near Racine yet lousy near Kenosha. Fish move for crying out load just like those Owls Sierra club yelled about in NM, they found them in Canada LOL


8 posted on 05/31/2007 4:21:57 PM PDT by Shots (Loose lips sink ships)
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To: truthkeeper

#4


9 posted on 05/31/2007 4:24:26 PM PDT by ca centered (should Idye my mustache black?)
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To: ElkGroveDan

A Republican governor could request a “God Squad” exemption to allow the pumping . . .


10 posted on 05/31/2007 4:25:27 PM PDT by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: ElkGroveDan

California’s 84,000 farms cover about one-third of the state’s total land area.

More than 97 percent of California farms are family farms or partnerships.

California has lead the nation in agricultural production for more than 50 years.

In the Central Valley, agriculture supports 30 percent of all jobs.

California agriculture and related industries directly account for 7 percent of the gross state product.

The gross cash income of California’s farmers and ranchers was $27.5 billion in 2002.

California farmers produce more than 250 commodities from almonds to walnuts, and they lead the nation in 75 commodities.

California produces all of the nation’s commercially grown almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, kiwifruit, nectarines, olives, persimmons, pistachios, prunes, raisins and walnuts.

California ranks No. 1 in the United States in production of floral products and contributes 22 percent of the national production.

Farms in the Golden State produce more than half of the nation’s fruits, vegetables and nuts from just 3 percent of the nation’s farmland.

California leads the nation in agricultural exports, shipping more than $6.4 billion in food and agricultural commodities around the world, nearly 17 percent of its agricultural production.

One California farmer supplies enough food, fiber and flowers for 135 people.

Agriculture supports 1.1 million jobs, nearly 8 percent of all jobs in the state.

Source: California Farm Bureau Federation


11 posted on 05/31/2007 4:25:31 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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Lester Snow the head of DWR proactively shut down Bansk pumping plant to see what happens with the Smelt for the next ten days. This follows the Courts throwing out the OCAP operations agreement on South Delta pumping and the envirnomental agreements already in place. The California Aqueduct (San Luis Canal) will continue to receive water from the San Luis Reservoir for SOCAL needs and State contractors. Cities and contractors north of San Luis are the ones that will begin to draw down the water level in the SLC and may run short. The Federal pump at Tracy recently renamed the Jones pumping plant is down to one unit out of six pumping already for fish restrictions. If this pump is shut down cities and contractors north of San Luis will also run out of water.

The Smelt fisheries group has no science to support the pumps having any effect one way or another on what is happening to smelt. In the North delta dead fish sampled were shown to have been harmed by pesticides. No matter where the fish are found in the delta they find a reason to shut the pumps down as the answer. The Environmental extremists are having their day but will shoot themselves in the foot when the voting populace runs short of water in the next water short year. This year there is a 70% water supply but less than 50% of the water was allocated because it can't be pumped because of fish actions limiting pumping.

12 posted on 05/31/2007 4:25:46 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Mat_Helm
The Environmental extremists are having their day but will shoot themselves in the foot when the voting populace runs short of water in the next water short year.

Exactly.

13 posted on 05/31/2007 4:26:55 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Where Oh Where is the Gubinor, The protector of the people?

Oh, wait, that’s right. He’s off signing global warming and stem cell deals in Canada.


14 posted on 05/31/2007 4:28:34 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
CDWP is an agency out of control. The courts won’t even try to stop them. It is a shame that they will now destroy ag in the central valley. Next they will want to reintroduce grizzlies.
15 posted on 05/31/2007 4:29:05 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never insult small minded men in positions of power.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Never fear Federal .gov farm subsidies and emergency pork will be on the way!!!! And in other news “While Rome burns...”.


16 posted on 05/31/2007 4:29:22 PM PDT by therut
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To: Mat_Helm
But wait!!! Won’t the drawing down of San Luis cause the strippers to suffer???????
17 posted on 05/31/2007 4:30:48 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never insult small minded men in positions of power.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Won’t the drawing down of San Luis cause the strippers to suffer???????

Now you've got my attention.

18 posted on 05/31/2007 4:31:56 PM PDT by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: Iconoclast2

“A Republican governor could request a “God Squad” exemption to allow the pumping . . .

You know where we can find one???


19 posted on 05/31/2007 4:33:21 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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To: ElkGroveDan

SFGate.com Excertped

Pump shutdown to save fish could affect local water supply
Chronicle Staff Report
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/31/BAGM3Q5C2V6.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea

Thursday, May 31, 2007

(05-31) 15:16 PDT SACRAMENTO — The state has shut down the large pumps that send water to 25 million Californians in order to protect a tiny fish teetering on the brink of extinction.

State officials said the shutdown could affect water supplies available to users in the Bay Area, the Central Valley and Southern California. Local areas that receive water from the State Water Project include the Tri-Valley, Santa Clara County, Yuba City and Solano County. Some of those areas can obtain water from other sources, including groundwater.

The shutdown is expected to last seven to 10 days, officials said.

Numbers of Delta smelt — once a common fish in the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta — have plunged in recent years, in part due to exports of water to the San Joaquin Valley and Southern California, scientists believe. Recent trawls for juvenile smelt have turned up few or none.


20 posted on 05/31/2007 4:35:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Looks like Smelt just made the top 10 food chain list.


21 posted on 05/31/2007 4:36:29 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Don’t forget about all of the new vineyards stretching from Paso Robles to Santa Barbara.

Where would we be without grapes to make wine to go with all that food?


22 posted on 05/31/2007 4:36:59 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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Damn the smelt.. Full Steam Ahead..

a little beer batter and a deep fryer .. burppppp


23 posted on 05/31/2007 4:37:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Shut down the water to the Bay Area if possible. Plus the entire city where the trial court is.


24 posted on 05/31/2007 4:50:41 PM PDT by Thud
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Just by shutting down for 7-10 days will devastate the farmers?

You don't think the kooks will run to court to prevent them from turning the pumps back on? and request all kinds of new enviro studies? Watch. It's going to get real ugly.

25 posted on 05/31/2007 5:00:42 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Where Oh Where is the Gubinor, The protector of the people?

The DWR reports directly to him.

26 posted on 05/31/2007 5:09:52 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I thought most of the aquaduct water went to the L.A. basin, with extra being sold off to farms and ranches. Let’s just shut off L.A.’s share and let the self-righteous environmentalists down there cope with “sustainability” in their home base. They can show us country bumpkins how to live in harmony with our natural environment by giving up their fountains, pools, theme parks and other wasteful use of precious California water. Then agriculture should have all the water it needs.


27 posted on 05/31/2007 5:50:26 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

This is something I am in favor of. These are a forage fish for stripers, bass, salmon and halibut down in the bay. Fisherman have beeen taking it in the shorts with more and more closures and shorter fishing seasons because game fish rely on these small fish for survival.

Most of this water is pumped from N.cal to S.Cal and is basically subsidizing farmers, keeping the lawns green in Socal (which is an arid region) and putting too much stress on the Sacramento river and its tributaries.


28 posted on 05/31/2007 5:53:34 PM PDT by vets son
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This is something I am in favor of. These are a forage fish for stripers, bass, salmon and halibut down in the bay.

You have no idea of the economic impact this will have on our nations produce basket. The base will have to compete with 35 million humans forced to forage downstream for food if the San Joaquin Valley goes dry.

29 posted on 05/31/2007 6:54:33 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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Yes, I do have an idea. Let’s ring the alarm bell! Millions will starve and all farmers will have to go on the dole. LOL As California grows so does its appetite for water. I don’t think anyones advocating shutting down ALL the water for the farmers. I myself think that there is water for all but I guess you don’t.


30 posted on 05/31/2007 7:25:24 PM PDT by vets son
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To: ElkGroveDan

People chide New Orleans for being below sealevel, but then they themselves build and farm in traditionally arid desert areas by diverting water to places nature never meant water to be. Then during dry spells they complain that their crops are doomed. If you want sympathy it’s in the dictionary between sh!te and syphilis.


31 posted on 05/31/2007 7:39:24 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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they themselves build and farm in traditionally arid desert areas by diverting water to places nature never meant water to be. Then during dry spells they complain that their crops are doomed.

Ha ha, you are so witty. Too bad you don't have a clue as to what's going on here. California has plenty of water thanks to the wonders of modern engineering. It's the enviro whackos who want to shut it all down for some stupid little fish that's the problem.

32 posted on 05/31/2007 8:18:48 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: vets son
I don’t think anyones advocating shutting down ALL the water for the farmer

You do if you support what happened today. If you learn how the California water project works, you will see that the Banks Pumping Plant in Tracy is the beating heart that drives it. Shut that down and within a season or two there will be no meaningful amount of water left for the Central Valley.

33 posted on 05/31/2007 8:23:20 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I believe this is for 10 days. Basically a little eye opener for water managers that they need to follow existing laws. 80% of all Californias’s “engineered” water is for agricultural use. The water projects are both federal and state subsidized and in some cases farmers get subsidized electrical costs to pump this subsidized water.

Yes, the state and everyone benefits from all these subsidies. Changes will need to be made sooner or later. Maybe less rice and or other crops that will grow with less water. Water needs to be actively managed for everyones benefit including fishermen, cities and recreational.


34 posted on 05/31/2007 8:55:40 PM PDT by vets son
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To: vets son

Commercial harvest is probably 100,000x more important in destroying “game fish” populations (maybe not stripers) than any pumping in the Delta.

But it’s just fine to put 100,000 farmers out of work to save one fisherman, at least under current federal policy.


35 posted on 06/01/2007 1:29:23 PM PDT by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: ElkGroveDan; Iconoclast2
Dan, as you know, there are folks, even here on FR who would rather remain wilfully and blisfully ignorant than face the socio-economic realities of the tenuous water situation and increasingly stupid water politics in CA.

Mostly, they only know what they've read in leftist books like "Cadillac Desert" or in old movies created by leftists that attack the productive founding of what little water infrastructure we have today that made us the once greatest state on earth!!!

It's heartbreaking to see the success this leftist twaddle has had on people coming to FR, still claiming to be conservatives while being totally misinformed and miserably biased toward abject silliness!!!

Worse still is the fact that people this misinformed are allowed to vote on these issues in this state and therefore it will get no better, even over time!!!

36 posted on 06/02/2007 7:00:45 AM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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