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Fish shuts Delta water pumps [Enviro whackos shut down water in California]
Sacramento Bee ^ | May 31, 2007 | Matt Weiser

Posted on 05/31/2007 4:10:17 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan

State water officials Thursday morning stopped exporting water from the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta to protect the threatened Delta smelt, a tiny native fish that appears to be on the brink of extinction.

The action, announced in a press release by the California Department of Water Resources, could mean water shortages for some cities and farms served by the California Aqueduct, ....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: envirowhackos; healthypeople2010; two; unagenda; water
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To: ElkGroveDan

Looks like Smelt just made the top 10 food chain list.


21 posted on 05/31/2007 4:36:29 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Don’t forget about all of the new vineyards stretching from Paso Robles to Santa Barbara.

Where would we be without grapes to make wine to go with all that food?


22 posted on 05/31/2007 4:36:59 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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Damn the smelt.. Full Steam Ahead..

a little beer batter and a deep fryer .. burppppp


23 posted on 05/31/2007 4:37:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Shut down the water to the Bay Area if possible. Plus the entire city where the trial court is.


24 posted on 05/31/2007 4:50:41 PM PDT by Thud
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To: SF Republican
Just by shutting down for 7-10 days will devastate the farmers?

You don't think the kooks will run to court to prevent them from turning the pumps back on? and request all kinds of new enviro studies? Watch. It's going to get real ugly.

25 posted on 05/31/2007 5:00:42 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Where Oh Where is the Gubinor, The protector of the people?

The DWR reports directly to him.

26 posted on 05/31/2007 5:09:52 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I thought most of the aquaduct water went to the L.A. basin, with extra being sold off to farms and ranches. Let’s just shut off L.A.’s share and let the self-righteous environmentalists down there cope with “sustainability” in their home base. They can show us country bumpkins how to live in harmony with our natural environment by giving up their fountains, pools, theme parks and other wasteful use of precious California water. Then agriculture should have all the water it needs.


27 posted on 05/31/2007 5:50:26 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

This is something I am in favor of. These are a forage fish for stripers, bass, salmon and halibut down in the bay. Fisherman have beeen taking it in the shorts with more and more closures and shorter fishing seasons because game fish rely on these small fish for survival.

Most of this water is pumped from N.cal to S.Cal and is basically subsidizing farmers, keeping the lawns green in Socal (which is an arid region) and putting too much stress on the Sacramento river and its tributaries.


28 posted on 05/31/2007 5:53:34 PM PDT by vets son
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To: vets son; SierraWasp
This is something I am in favor of. These are a forage fish for stripers, bass, salmon and halibut down in the bay.

You have no idea of the economic impact this will have on our nations produce basket. The base will have to compete with 35 million humans forced to forage downstream for food if the San Joaquin Valley goes dry.

29 posted on 05/31/2007 6:54:33 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Yes, I do have an idea. Let’s ring the alarm bell! Millions will starve and all farmers will have to go on the dole. LOL As California grows so does its appetite for water. I don’t think anyones advocating shutting down ALL the water for the farmers. I myself think that there is water for all but I guess you don’t.


30 posted on 05/31/2007 7:25:24 PM PDT by vets son
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To: ElkGroveDan

People chide New Orleans for being below sealevel, but then they themselves build and farm in traditionally arid desert areas by diverting water to places nature never meant water to be. Then during dry spells they complain that their crops are doomed. If you want sympathy it’s in the dictionary between sh!te and syphilis.


31 posted on 05/31/2007 7:39:24 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: BuffaloJack
they themselves build and farm in traditionally arid desert areas by diverting water to places nature never meant water to be. Then during dry spells they complain that their crops are doomed.

Ha ha, you are so witty. Too bad you don't have a clue as to what's going on here. California has plenty of water thanks to the wonders of modern engineering. It's the enviro whackos who want to shut it all down for some stupid little fish that's the problem.

32 posted on 05/31/2007 8:18:48 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: vets son
I don’t think anyones advocating shutting down ALL the water for the farmer

You do if you support what happened today. If you learn how the California water project works, you will see that the Banks Pumping Plant in Tracy is the beating heart that drives it. Shut that down and within a season or two there will be no meaningful amount of water left for the Central Valley.

33 posted on 05/31/2007 8:23:20 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I believe this is for 10 days. Basically a little eye opener for water managers that they need to follow existing laws. 80% of all Californias’s “engineered” water is for agricultural use. The water projects are both federal and state subsidized and in some cases farmers get subsidized electrical costs to pump this subsidized water.

Yes, the state and everyone benefits from all these subsidies. Changes will need to be made sooner or later. Maybe less rice and or other crops that will grow with less water. Water needs to be actively managed for everyones benefit including fishermen, cities and recreational.


34 posted on 05/31/2007 8:55:40 PM PDT by vets son
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To: vets son

Commercial harvest is probably 100,000x more important in destroying “game fish” populations (maybe not stripers) than any pumping in the Delta.

But it’s just fine to put 100,000 farmers out of work to save one fisherman, at least under current federal policy.


35 posted on 06/01/2007 1:29:23 PM PDT by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: ElkGroveDan; Iconoclast2
Dan, as you know, there are folks, even here on FR who would rather remain wilfully and blisfully ignorant than face the socio-economic realities of the tenuous water situation and increasingly stupid water politics in CA.

Mostly, they only know what they've read in leftist books like "Cadillac Desert" or in old movies created by leftists that attack the productive founding of what little water infrastructure we have today that made us the once greatest state on earth!!!

It's heartbreaking to see the success this leftist twaddle has had on people coming to FR, still claiming to be conservatives while being totally misinformed and miserably biased toward abject silliness!!!

Worse still is the fact that people this misinformed are allowed to vote on these issues in this state and therefore it will get no better, even over time!!!

36 posted on 06/02/2007 7:00:45 AM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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