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Google's new mapping feature includes unwitting subjects
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 6/1/07 | Michael Liedtke - ap

Posted on 06/01/2007 1:58:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Google Inc. bills the latest twist on its online maps as "Street View," but it looks a bit like "Candid Camera" as you cruise through the panorama of pictures that captured fleeting moments in neighborhoods scattered across the country.

In San Francisco, there's a man picking his nose on a street corner, another fellow taking out the trash and another guy scaling the outside of an apartment building, perhaps just for fun or maybe for some more sinister purpose.

Further down the highway at Stanford University, there's the titillation of a couple coeds sunbathing in their bikinis. In San Jose, there's the rather sad sight of a bearded man apparently sleeping - or did he just pass out? - in the shadow of a garbage can, with what appears to be an empty cup perched in front of him.

In Miami, there's a group of protesters carrying signs outside an abortion clinic. In other cities, you can see men entering adult book stores or leaving strip joints.

Potentially embarrassing or compromising scenes like these are raising questions about whether the Internet's leading search engine has gone too far in its latest attempt to make the world a more accessible - and transparent - place.

"Everyone expects a certain level of anonymity as they move about their daily lives," said Kevin Bankston, a staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a group devoted to protecting people's rights on the Internet. "There is a certain 'ick' factor here."

Google is hoping to elicit "oohs and ahhs" with Street View, which was introduced on its maps for the San Francisco Bay area, New York, Las Vegas, Denver and Miami earlier this week. The Mountain View-based company already is planning to expand the service to other U.S. cities and other countries.

The feature provides high-resolution photos to enable street-level tours so users can get a more realistic, 360-degree look at places they might go or spots where they already have been. To guard against privacy intrusions, Google said all the photos were taken from vehicles driving along public streets during the past year. The photos will be periodically updated, but the company hasn't specified a timetable for doing so.

"This imagery is no different from what any person can readily capture or see walking down the street," Google spokeswoman Megan Quinn said in a statement. "Imagery of this kind is available in a wide variety of formats for cities all around the world."

Google certainly isn't the first company to venture down this photographic avenue. Amazon.com Inc. launched a similar mapping feature in January 2005 on a search engine called A9.com. That search engine's former chief executive, Udi Manber, now works for Google. And Microsoft Corp. began displaying street-level pictures on its online maps for San Francisco and Seattle late last year.

A9's photographic maps, which were abandoned late last year, raised privacy concerns about women being seen entering domestic violence shelters.

Hoping to avoid similar complaints, Google tried to identify potentially sensitive locations by contacting the Safety Net Project at the National Network to End Domestic Violence, much to the delight of Cindy Southworth, the group's director.

"We were thrilled that a major technology company like this reached out in this way to help protect these victims," she said.

Google also is offering a "help" button on all the street-level photos to provide a link for users to request the removal of an image that is objectionable or clearly identifies a person who doesn't want to be included in the visual tapestry. Company spokeswoman Victoria Grand said Google has fielded "very few" removal requests so far.

Eileen Diamond is hoping she can persuade Google to replace its current picture of a Miami street corner where protesters gather once a week to protest the abortions performed at A Choice For Women. The picture, still available on Google's maps Friday afternoon, includes a cluster of protesters standing outside the clinic, an image that clinic administrator Diamond worries will scare away potential patients or perhaps attract trouble makers to the facility.

"It's sort of disturbing because it's certainly not the kind of message we want to be sending out," said Diamond. "It's already very painful for our patients to come in. We want them to feel safe and protected."

As of Friday, Diamond said she was still having trouble finding the right way through Google's Web site to notify the company she would like the picture removed.

Privacy experts believe these kinds of ticklish situations are bound to arise as technology makes it increasingly easy to share pictures and video on the Internet, pitting the rights of free expression against the rights to personal privacy.

"What you have to do is balance out the perception against the reality and I think in this case, the perception is much scarier than the reality," said Lauren Weinstein, co-founder of People For Internet Responsibility, a policy group.

Because Google's street-level pictures were taken in public places, the company appears to be on solid legal ground, according to both Bankston and Weinstein.

But Bankston doesn't think the law necessarily absolves Google, particularly since the company has embraced "Don't Be Evil" as its creed. He worries that some people in need of psychological or medical help won't seek treatment for fear of being caught in the cross-hairs of Google's cameras.

"There's a distinction between what Google has a legal right to do and what is the responsible thing to do," said Bankston, who believes the company should have blurred the images of unwitting pedestrians before it posted the street-level pictures. "It's a problem we as a society have to grapple with, and I think we are just now seeing the fault lines emerge."

While he thinks some of the issues raised by Google's new service are prime fodder for a healthy debate, Weinstein worries that it might inspire overly repressive laws.

"It's a tough area, but it just seems there is no way around the fact that public spaces are public spaces," Weinstein said. "You don't want to create an environment where it becomes illegal to take photos in public. It can be riskier not to be able to see something than it is to be able to see something."


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How would you .. make that

How should you feel being Googled and not even knowing it?

Flattered? Violated? Who cares? Huh?

1 posted on 06/01/2007 1:58:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Hi! *-)

Google Street View
http://maps.google.com/help/maps/streetview/index.html


2 posted on 06/01/2007 2:01:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Who cares, its just some photo at a resolution that makes you unrecognizable.


3 posted on 06/01/2007 2:01:51 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: NormsRevenge

It doesn’t bother me. My little town would only be about 3 pictures.


4 posted on 06/01/2007 2:03:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Always Right

Generally, if you’re embarassed by going into strip joints and bookstores,

Don’t go into them.


5 posted on 06/01/2007 2:05:17 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: NormsRevenge

Is it realtime? If so, we’ll have no secrets.


6 posted on 06/01/2007 2:05:20 PM PDT by wolfcreek (AMNESTY: See what BROWN can do for you..)
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To: NormsRevenge

They say you can see people’s faces and license plates.

Yeah? So?

I saw a couple hundred faces and license plates when I went out to lunch today.
Even if I just look out my window I can see a couple dozen lisence plates in the parking lot.
Its called public.


7 posted on 06/01/2007 2:05:56 PM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Always Right
Who cares, its just some photo at a resolution that makes you unrecognizable.

Have you looked at some of the samples posted on FR in the last couple days? You can read license numbers, see faces... These are high quality pictures.

8 posted on 06/01/2007 2:07:16 PM PDT by Ingtar (...right wing conservatives are growing tired of crawling on bloody stumps looking for scraps - JRob)
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To: wolfcreek
Is it realtime? If so, we’ll have no secrets.

Now real time would be cool, but for now they are just one snap shot in time.

9 posted on 06/01/2007 2:07:28 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Ingtar
Have you looked at some of the samples posted on FR in the last couple days? You can read license numbers, see faces... These are high quality pictures.

So. I can go out and read your license plate number everytime you leave home. A license plate number by itself is meaningless. This is much to do about nothing.

10 posted on 06/01/2007 2:10:08 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: NormsRevenge

After 20 years of trying, my address is still wrong. It’s wrong with the real estate assessor, wrong on google, wrong on the maps, but right with the tax department.

Go figure.

I’m not to eager to rectify the constant mistake anymore especially with Google’s use of techology.

In any event, with google being some sort of fascist superstate of its own with a market cap bigger than some African countries, why don’t they just stop pretending they are just a listing on the Nasdaq and what they really want is to become some creepy Orwellian tyrants with their own version of the secret police.

On the other hand, can we see Johnny Depp’s place?


11 posted on 06/01/2007 2:10:35 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: NormsRevenge
a couple coeds sunbathing in their bikinis

Coordinates please? :)

12 posted on 06/01/2007 2:16:49 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("Global warming" and "Climate Change" are the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated by confidence (wo)men!)
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To: NormsRevenge

My parents’ house, built in 2000 is still not on Google. And it’s in a fairly high-density location in the US.


13 posted on 06/01/2007 2:22:30 PM PDT by dangus (Mr. President, "Choke on it b!+ch" is not a very good campaign slogan for your amnesty.)
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To: NormsRevenge

One day at the office, my friend found his house on GoogleEarth. His house was on fire.


14 posted on 06/01/2007 2:29:31 PM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: Ingtar

Is Paris Hilton in any of these pictures?
If not, then who cares?


15 posted on 06/01/2007 2:30:56 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Every year will be worse and worse as the resolution and searching features improve.

This will give a giant advantage to professional criminals, for scouting robberies and other crimes.


16 posted on 06/01/2007 2:36:13 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing

“This will give a giant advantage to professional criminals, for scouting robberies and other crimes.”

My wife got an email last night about google’s phone number search. I guess you can type in a phone number and find the address. Somehow you can (and she did) hide that information from google.


17 posted on 06/01/2007 2:39:36 PM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: tet68
This guy might care. I believe it is in a bit of poor taste to do this. But if you visit this sort of place in broad daylight, you are just begging to be seen. I was simply trying to point out that the resolution is a lot higher than most people guess it to be.
18 posted on 06/01/2007 2:48:05 PM PDT by Ingtar (...right wing conservatives are growing tired of crawling on bloody stumps looking for scraps - JRob)
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To: Ingtar

Next year the resolution will be so good you can see the wet spot on his pants :)


19 posted on 06/01/2007 2:54:44 PM PDT by conserv8ive1 (Rudy and the Bots...blasting off to oblivion.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

>>Coordinates please? :)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=googleplex&sll=37.448697,-120.948486&sspn=2.94791,5.141602&ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1&layer=c&cbll=37.424822,-122.164756&cbp=1,169.16458375201,0.544471386059485,3&gl=us&ll=37.428678,-122.162175&spn=0.010479,0.020385&z=16


20 posted on 06/01/2007 3:15:42 PM PDT by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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