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1 posted on 06/01/2007 9:00:27 PM PDT by rmlew
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I agree. We need to place a moratorium on immigration - say five years and then revisit the issue and decide what kinds of immigrants we want, what qualifications they ought to have to be admitted to the United States, whom we ought to exclude and what standards immigrants should meet to attain citizenship. First we do that, then we secure our borders and then we revisit the immigration issue once we have control over who can get in. Otherwise we're putting the horse before the cart.

Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 06/01/2007 9:05:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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“they come from the same countries, live in the same communities and families, and are often the same exact people.”

Ummmm..No..They’re not.

‘Legal’ immigrants go through all the necessary procedures to come to America, uhh, legally.

“Illegal’ immigrants storm the back door and arrive by ‘stealth’ to push there way into our country because they feel it is their ‘right’ to be here and no American ‘laws’ are going to stop them.

Legal immigrants abide by the law.

Illegal immigrants don’t and are nothing more than criminals.


3 posted on 06/01/2007 9:06:31 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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Oh please.


4 posted on 06/01/2007 9:06:55 PM PDT by jess35
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Great article. I am one of the supposed bigots who are aginst the flood of illegals and legals from (primarily) Mexico. We are going to lose our Southwestern states relatively soon.


5 posted on 06/01/2007 9:13:58 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Stop the ethnic cleansing of American citizens. Save America, Congress!)
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CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

6 posted on 06/01/2007 9:16:22 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Couldn’t agree more. Everybody’s afraid to say what they’re really concerned about (or should be concerned about) and that’s a massive change in our social and cultural environment due to the large volume of immigration, AND its lack of diversity - being primarily from one country. We need to drastically reduce the flow and increase its diversity.


8 posted on 06/01/2007 9:25:40 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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The author needs to drop his latte, Take a step outside his(it’s) world.


13 posted on 06/01/2007 10:15:27 PM PDT by kinoxi
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But you see, I don't give a flying amorous embrace at a rolling breakfast pastry about the impact of anything on American workers. I just want only people here who want to live under a rule of law, who love law abidingness, who are grateful, etc. And oh I also want the real and present justice of the honorable treated better than the dishonorable. So blow your malthusian nonsense out your ear. Illegal is bad, and legal is good, and if you try to reject that, guess what? You won't be left with the third of the country you've got now, on your side.
20 posted on 06/01/2007 10:51:59 PM PDT by JasonC
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Illegal bad.

Legal, under rational policy with the quantity and quality to benefit America, good.

We may not be able to ever get a rational policy, however, in which case it would be better that there was extremely limited immigration.

23 posted on 06/01/2007 11:11:31 PM PDT by Plutarch
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“But the “legal is good, illegal is bad” mantra will only get you so far. Even if we were to address the pervasive illegality of today’s immigration flow — by, say, amnestying all the illegal aliens and increasing legal immigration, as the appalling Senate bill calls for — most of the problem would remain.”

You DO NOT change criminality by EXCUSING THE DAMNED CRIMINALS and then TELLING US that the problem is fixed. Do NOT pi$$ down my back and tell me that it’s raining!


25 posted on 06/01/2007 11:12:03 PM PDT by Grunthor (I am a GREAT sinner but I have a GREATER Saviour.)
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We've reached a point where it's time to simply END immigration for a while in this country.

Not just illegal immigration.

End it, completely. And allow for a "period of assimilation", say, 20 years.

After that's done, we can reassess.

No more immigrants!

Call me a xenophobe.
Call me a racist.
Call me a nativist.
Call me whatever you like. I don't care.

No more immigrants!

- John

38 posted on 06/02/2007 6:52:52 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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bump


56 posted on 06/05/2007 9:25:46 AM PDT by VOA
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“As Ramesh Ponnuru has written, “America has some serious immigration problems, but they are not distinctively problems of illegal immigration.” Calls of “Enforcement First” by critics of the Bush-Kennedy amnesty bill are surely the place to start the immigration debate, because without a commitment to enforce the rules, it doesn’t much matter what the rules are. But in the long run, the substance of the rules themselves is the more important question.”

If we cant even win the ‘enforce the rules’ debate, the latter debate on “How many immigrants to let in? Who should they be?” is like discussing angels on the head of a pin.


62 posted on 06/06/2007 4:14:48 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.))
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Take Hesham Mohamed Ali Hedayet, for instance. He was the Egyptian immigrant terrorist who decided to celebrate the Fourth of July in 2002 by killing Jews at the El Al counter at Los Angeles International Airport. He had arrived legally years before as a tourist, then shortly before his permission to be here expired (which would have turned him into an illegal alien) he applied for asylum here, thus preserving legal status while his claim was adjudicated. After he was rejected and stayed here anyway, he became an illegal alien. Later, his wife won the visa lottery and he, as her spouse, also got a green card, making him legal again.

Sorry for the huge quote, but this is relatively easy to fix. If there is any evidence that a person has ever been in the US illegally, then they have no ability whatsoever to become legal. None. Ever.

"Sorry about the anchor baby thing, ma'am, but if you want to raise the kid yourself, ya gotta take 'em back to wherever with you. Otherwise, put him up for adoption and get on the ICE plane."

"Good news: you won the immigration lottery. Bad news: you stole someone's SSN in 1997 to get a job ... get on the ICE bus."

The only way we are really going to solve this issue is to give those who are here illegally a reason to go home.

63 posted on 06/06/2007 4:14:49 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (Seven more days!)
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