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1 posted on 06/02/2007 9:59:21 AM PDT by BornInASmallTown
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Prepares my new bumper sticker: I’m against the immigration bill of 2015 too.


34 posted on 06/02/2007 10:37:35 AM PDT by vietvet67
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Bush’s plan will “save” the union. The horse has left the barn, closing it now will change nothing. (barn door=border) There is no going back. The future is what Bush is concerned with, as I am. The North American Union is the answer.


37 posted on 06/02/2007 10:40:44 AM PDT by Blake#1
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I think I have an idea that might work to make passing this bill more difficult.

We need to start asking the pro-amnesty pols this question--

"Mr. Snow, has the big Bush family every hired illegal immigrants to work for them?"

"Senator McCain, have you or your family every hired illegal immigrants to work for you?" (Wow, he'd blow a gasket!! But he has a palace in Arizona, he married big AZ money--I'll bet he expects to be cleaned up after and waited on by humble and underpaid servants...)

This is a very hard question to put to anyone who has grown up in the SW. It'd be rather difficult to answer in the negative--because then the digging would start. "I don't know" would be the safest answer, but it's still a bad answer. Of course, they could always admit to it.

Bush hinted that he's about to "take his gloves off" and start playing the race card, which he somehow thinks is unanswerable.

This question, or a threat of having to answer it, is OUR card.

Somebody has to be found to start asking this question.

41 posted on 06/02/2007 10:44:29 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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"We propose that Congress pass comprehensive immigration reform that reflects the American commitment to the three formative pillars of our nation: the rule of law..."
I'm having trouble getting from A to B.
43 posted on 06/02/2007 10:47:05 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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A question for Constitutional Law experts: Is this an ex post facto law? I’m referring to the way it substitutes a $5,000 ‘fine’ for deportation for people who committed the crime before the law is enacted..

What I’m saying is that $5,000 ‘fine’ is what proponents are referring to when they say it isn’t amnesty. So, if that provision could be shot down, it would take away their argument that it isn’t amnesty.

To my way of thinking, because the illegals would have to pay the $5,000 as part of the process to obtain citizenship, the ‘fine’ is really a FEE, not a penalty.

Of course, either way, the bill is raising revenue and only the House can introduce revenue bills, so even if the Senate pulls the back taxes provision, the House could still blue slip it.


45 posted on 06/02/2007 10:51:27 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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I resigned from the Republican Party today. I told them why-Amnesty. Joined the “Declines To State Party.” I would urge all Republicans to do the same(Except the Kool Aid drinking Republicans, who are gone anyway). Such action may have sufficient shock value to jar the “Grand Old Party” back to reality.


59 posted on 06/02/2007 11:13:33 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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THIS BILL IS NOTHING MORE THAN A DEMONSTRATION THAT THE DESIRES OF 20 MILLION ILLEGALS ARE BEING GIVEN PRIORITY OVER THE WISHES OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICAN CITIZENS!

I love it when some leaders portray situations as more difficult to solve than they actually are. There’s no more sure sign of how easily something can be fixed then to hear bureaucrats decry the complexity of the issue.

If I were “king,” I could fix this problem with relatively little effort and less cost.

This is NOT a complex problem, unless you give weight to the desires of those who knowingly and intentionally violated the law. The fact is that the American people are largely unified in opposing this bill, and I think that research...were it conducted...would prove that many Americans who give partial backing to the “guest worker, Z-visa, pathway to citizenship” provisions are simply trying to accommodate a situation they believe is so far out of hand that we cannot fully resolve it. Were they aware of how easily this could be fixed I think that many who currently give support to this bill would oppose it.

This CAN be fixed, and we can get virtually all of the illegals out of the US if we had the resolve to do it. Enforce damned law! Punish anyone who provides jobs or any sort of support to illegals. Stop imposing fines and start putting offenders in prison. If it takes additional legislation, so be it. Strip any any city or state of federal funding if they provide sanctuary to illegals. Strip every church that provides support for illegals of their tax-free status. Do this, and the illegals will leave on their own, and it will cost us far less than what they're costing us right now.

63 posted on 06/02/2007 11:27:29 AM PDT by RavenATB
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“No one will get everything they want, but everyone will get something, and in the end, what we come up with is better for the country, and we all have to see it that way,” said Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez

Yep, the illegals will get amnesty, the taxpaying Americans will get the shaft..and in the end, we come up with something better for the illegals and trash the country..

..and oh yeah, WE ALL DON’T HAVE TO SEE IT THAT WAY IN A FREE REPUBLIC!


66 posted on 06/02/2007 11:32:16 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America.)
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Bush can not reply to the arguments against the bill. So he and his minions resort to name calling and playing the race card.

Two questions for Senior Arbusto:
1. What laws should I obey or are they all merely suggestions?
2. Whose wages need to be kept down? The Washington elite’s? or the poor and middle class’s?

68 posted on 06/02/2007 11:35:15 AM PDT by common denominator
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Mr Bush is now in a position to treat those of us who put him in office for two terms, with all the contempt he would show toward cheap @$$ wipe that his fingers broke through while wiping. The rest of the yahoos in the House and Senate, upon whom he relies to bring this traitorous atrocity of a bill to fruition; are not quite so isolated from repercussions.

The amnesty bill if enacted, will eventually be the death of this country as we know it and love it, but first it will be the death of the Republican Party.

As they say: “Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results, is a sign of insanity.”

We, the Conservative base of the Republican party have been insanely believing the same old lies and electing the clones of the same old liars, while expecting different results, for several decades now, but we get the same old warmed over bull sh*t.

Never more, quoth we, in harmony with the raven.


87 posted on 06/02/2007 12:38:50 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (The President, the Senate, the House,has surrendered to 20 million criminals. Anarchy? Hell yes!)
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[.. Bush Brushes Off Criticism of Immigration Bill ..]

Bush is either stupid or worse he ISN'T..

88 posted on 06/02/2007 12:45:19 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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“No one will get everything they want, but everyone will get something, and in the end, what we come up with is better for the country, and we all have to see it that way,” said Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez

Check out the name. Pretty much says it all.

95 posted on 06/02/2007 3:07:27 PM PDT by beckysueb
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When there was a lot of opposition to the Iraq war Bush said he got to decide, so he’s the “decider”... There’s even more opposition to this, but ultimately Bush will get to dictate what happens. Which begs the question... how much difference is there between a “decider” and a “dictator?”


103 posted on 06/03/2007 1:18:17 AM PDT by COgamer
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My Romanian neighbor’s who came here legally and run a assisted living home have heir relatives come from Romania to work in the business.
They can “legally” stay for 6 mo. then must return home and cannot get another work visa for one year.
It angers me to no end to hear these illegal invaders DEMAND the right to stay.
Why are they getting special treatment~disgusting!!!
112 posted on 06/03/2007 5:22:10 PM PDT by Isabelle
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