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To: JohnLocke23
Ah Freddy you don’t get it.

The “Conservative” media establishment in Talk Radio et al don’t want to actually DISCUSS this issue. They want to vent their bile and hate about not getting ONLY 100% of ONLY what they want. The simple fact is the old style Conservative are not at all interested in getting things done on any issue, they merely want to sit on the side lines and mindlessly scream about everything because it is no longer 1982.

4 posted on 06/02/2007 10:51:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: MNJohnnie
they're crazy to oppose this once-in-a-lifetime chance to stop illegal immigration and enact sensible policies for legal immigration.

This bill does neither of these things and Fred Barnes knows it.

No bill is better than this monstrosity.

L

23 posted on 06/02/2007 10:56:34 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Nonsense.

Conservatives want results. Not another round of empty promises in a long string of empty promises heaped upon institutionalized dereliction of duty.


33 posted on 06/02/2007 11:01:16 AM PDT by AIM-54
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To: MNJohnnie

A-but Jonnie— methinks you confuse conservatives with
liberals, it is mostly the liberal dems that whines about
everything exept more hand-outs


34 posted on 06/02/2007 11:01:21 AM PDT by munin (The war on muslim terror=world war 3 time to let's roll Time to lube our guns with pork fat)
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To: MNJohnnie
If President Bush ever comes to a sudden stop your nose will be lodged so far up his backside it'll take his entire Secret Service detail to pry you out.

L

39 posted on 06/02/2007 11:03:33 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Conservative are not at all interested in getting things done on any issue, they merely want to sit on the side lines and mindlessly scream about everything because it is no longer 1982.
Yeah, that's right, like Harriet Miers.
52 posted on 06/02/2007 11:09:23 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: MNJohnnie

Rush Limbaugh and his gang of thugs have no clue as to how tight labor is. Although I do have to compliment him on using my Dead Air America phrase.

Pray for W and Our Troops


74 posted on 06/02/2007 11:19:10 AM PDT by bray (The co-clintons freed more terrorists then they killed)
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To: MNJohnnie

Border Measures were supposed to be enforced after the 1986 Amnesty when we gave 3 million the free ride. Because of the non-enforcement of promises that were made in 1986, 12-20 million more illegals are about to get a free ride.

What makes you think border security now?

It is you that doesn’t get it.


94 posted on 06/02/2007 11:30:51 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: MNJohnnie
It's not a matter of wanting 100%. It's a matter of wanting the most important parts of that 100%, i.e., border security and enforcement of existing immigration laws. The bill promises these things, but based on past performance, what are the odds that this will happen?

Let Congress produce a bill that requires enforcement of existing laws and state-of-the-art border security. Let them implement these requirements. Then we can talk about amnesty--or whatever they decide to call the legalization of illegals.

140 posted on 06/02/2007 12:14:21 PM PDT by giotto
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To: MNJohnnie
"The “Conservative” media establishment in Talk Radio et al don’t want to actually DISCUSS this issue. They want to vent their bile and hate about not getting ONLY 100% of ONLY what they want. "

I suspect many of the "screamers" want to kill the whole thing to keep the border open for several more years. Anyone who has any sanity left in this debate knows a fence can't be built without a compromise with the border locals. They will sabotage a fence without some kind of deal to save their local economies. Which cheap labor lobbyist bought out talk radio?

Rush is the one raising the level of debate to an irrational hysteria. Maybe he is thinking about an early retirement. I don't trust him. Actually I never did. He reminds me of the reincarnation of a snake oil salesmen.

220 posted on 06/02/2007 4:27:21 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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