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Good editorial...
1 posted on 06/03/2007 7:17:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Since when is enforcing the laws on the books a “Far Right” position? I wonder if W would be good enough to list all the other optional laws for us.


2 posted on 06/03/2007 7:20:19 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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I always like David Limbaugh's columns.

Don't you like how Bush has changed the tone in Washington?

3 posted on 06/03/2007 7:20:45 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Proponents are wrong and grossly irresponsible for downplaying the fiscal burden this bill will place on an already entitlement-beleaguered federal budget.

Most proponents know very well that this bill would bloat the federal budget.

It represents millions more dependent voters and more power for the federal government. Indeed, this whole issue is about gaining more power for the governors (them) over the governed (us).

The Beltway is running a power grab on the rest of America.

4 posted on 06/03/2007 7:30:14 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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It is good and to the point. It also deserves an answer. Why? We know why the ‘house of lords’ wants it, I just can’t figure out why the President is trying to force this slimy abomination down the throats of those who have stood by him for the last six years.


5 posted on 06/03/2007 7:31:14 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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Bush exhibits classic signs of having a masochistic personality disorder.


6 posted on 06/03/2007 7:33:57 PM PDT by heywaitadarnminute (This post happens between 12 AM and 12 PM)
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But because I continue to believe President Bush is an honorable man pursuing policies he believes are right

Can you be an honorable man and reward lawbreakers of the country you are leading?

7 posted on 06/03/2007 7:35:26 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Ah don't feeeeel no ways taihrd.)
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In the city that I live near, Utica, NY, I just read today that Bush with the aid of a ‘refugee center’ is going to bring Iraqi’s into the area. This same ‘refugee center’ has brought in 11,000 immigrants (almost all Muslims) into this city of 40,000 people in the last 10 years. Utica is a very economically depressed area and there are hardly any jobs for the citizens. Why is Bush and the government bringing in so many Muslims? What is going on? I am bewildered by his actions and I am afraid for the future. This New World Order does not look like it is going to be very peaceful or prosperous.
10 posted on 06/03/2007 7:43:51 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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I don't suggest President Bush has a duty to cater to conservatives on immigration because they have stood by him on the war.

Hey David ... I'll say it for you.

George W. Bush's policies and actions in the White House have been opposed to the beliefs of the vast majority of people who elected him.

No Child Left Behind? No thanks. Prescription Drugs? No thanks. Failure to veto McCain-Feingold? No thanks. Failure to enact meaningful tax reform? No thanks. Largest growth in government spending? No thanks.

The list goes on and on and on. Bush has never failed to "reach across the aisle" to the people who for years now have constantly threatened him with impeachment, have called him everything but a Child of God, have attempted to usurp his authority as president.

And every time he reaches across the aisle to Ted "The Swimmer" Kennedy who is a murdering SOB, George W. Bush turns his back on me.

I will grant you that he gave us strict constructionists like we asked for, but one of them only after we raised hell.

Yet I have stood by the President. Defended him and supported him. I have campaigned for him. I have convinced people that they can hold their noses and vote for him. All Bush has left me to support him on is the WOT (and there he's working very hard to screw it up - or at least shift the blame).

So I'll say it, David. Now is the time for Bush to ante up.

Drop this amnesty crap. If you can't do it because it is the RIGHT THING TO DO, then do it because your supporters are demanding it!

And, while we're on the subject, Mr. President, the next time you feel like calling me a bigot or saying I'm unpatriotic, just STFU. That dog don't hunt and it just makes you look like even more of a leftist b@$#@%d.

11 posted on 06/03/2007 7:44:46 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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Excellent editorial. David Limbaugh’s comments are almost always good, but this has the look of something that has been worked over with extreme care. Every word is carefully chosen.

Frankly, if the President can’t understand what Limbaugh is saying to him, he is either invincibly ignorant or has sold out to donors who want an endless supply of cheap labor and expect the taxpayers to foot the bill. Limbaugh’s message couldn’t be clearer. Our country, our culture, our respect for the rule of law, our constitutional system that has never been equalled anywhere in history: all are at stake.

What a horrible mess this is!


12 posted on 06/03/2007 7:45:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Jorge’s father tried to destroy the Republican Party at a time it should have been flourishing. At the time, I cannot think of Republican President betraying those who voted for him in a greater way than Bush breaking his Read My Lips Pledge. Of course, he did it in his first term and voters served justice and it would have been Perot not Clinton had Perot not clearly exhibited that he did not have the sanity for the job. Now Jorge is going against those who supported him in his second term. This set of Bushes may have some claims to Texas, but deep down they are Rockefeller NWO Republicans from the east coast elite establishment, stupid and stubborn, and eventually fated to the scorn and contempt of the lower classes like myself.


14 posted on 06/03/2007 7:47:54 PM PDT by Biblebelter (I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
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Rush’s younger smarter brother bump.


15 posted on 06/03/2007 7:49:16 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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"Good editorial..."

Yes, very good!!!

Except for the following statement:

"I don't question his good intentions on immigration."

At this point I do question his good intentions on immigration. It's becoming more apparent that open borders will lead to no borders -- a pre-cursor to the official establishment of the North American Union, or whatever they are calling it these days.

In fact, I believe that is why the borders were not sealed on 9-11.

18 posted on 06/03/2007 7:53:48 PM PDT by Eastbound
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I don't think most senators or Bush have read this bill in any of its various revisions.

Bush has been captured by his own inner circle. Typical in the presidency actually. They become isolated in the WH and when political opponents attack, they draw even closer to that small circle. It's generally not good for the country.
24 posted on 06/03/2007 8:00:54 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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President Bush is wrong that conservatives are trying "to frighten people" into opposing the bill.

They should be in any case, becuase this bill scares the hell out of me.

27 posted on 06/03/2007 8:05:02 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est.)
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Frankly, I've got to the point that I don't read any of this stuff.

A Conservative, or merely a rational human being, laying out the reasons why opposition to this bill is NOT treason, why it isn't racist, why it isn't the base defecting from some shining hero...is wasting breath.

All the buzz words are in place, in play, and in the president's notes. The debate has been cast by 'bipartisan' elites with only money to be made and debts to be repaid.

There is a war going on, there are imminent threats to both our sovereignty and our economic well being. Our leaders are all wadded up over a means to make MS13 legal and we are all wadded up over stopping that from happening.
(Timing is everything)

Is there a chance of winning when the other side had already defined the playing field?
(Pigs flying, crickets chirping, Kennedy's laughing)

Is it important?
(Of course it is)

Are there other things slipping under the radar while the debate stumbles forward?
(Your comment here___)

29 posted on 06/03/2007 8:06:20 PM PDT by norton
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Too often there is an inverse relationship between the level of graciousness President Bush metes out versus that he receives. He sometimes reserves his harshest words for his allies.

If it weren't for bad political instincts the President wouldn't have any at all.

30 posted on 06/03/2007 8:09:01 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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Very good article, a well stated summary of how I feel about this. He was a bit too kind to those who support this, but I think David Limbaugh was trying to take the high road, which is better than how The President is handling it by trying to demonize those of us who oppose him.

Too bad The President didn’t devote this much effort to drilling in ANWAR, making the tax cuts permanent, social security reform, and school vouchers....

Being someone who voted for him twice, I feel betrayed. During the campaigns he said he was pro-immigration, which I have no problem with because legal immigration is done in a controlled way, and it’s good for our country. He never said he supported unmitigated lawlessness. This had to be planned with politics in mind too, because Mr. Bush never behaved like this during his first term in office. There is hope. If this legislation can be stopped, Mr Bush really only has 6 months left in office that he can do anything with, because nothing ever gets done in election years. Effectively, his presidency is almost over.


33 posted on 06/03/2007 8:12:47 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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An anonymous White House official said neither the people on the far left nor far right are going to get what they want on the immigration bill.

What about middle America? I guess they don't count.

Of course we all know that has little to do with the far left or right.

41 posted on 06/03/2007 8:52:39 PM PDT by dragnet2
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>>The only things that appear redeeming about this monstrosity are insignificant "narrow slices" that are wholly outweighed by the bill's noxious provisions.<<

It is a preposterously bad bill overall, but if you look really hard you can find "narrow slices" that would be good if they were voted on separately, like the ending of the stupid "Diversity Visa" program. We are not surprised when congress sneaks some pork into a bill that would otherwise be good law. But this bill is almost all bad.




48 posted on 06/03/2007 9:29:31 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

55 posted on 06/03/2007 10:59:30 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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