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Bush Fears For Nation’s Soul; Peggy Noonan Fears For Bush’s Soul
Political Mavens/Jewish World Review ^
| June 4, 2007
Posted on 06/04/2007 6:14:33 AM PDT by theothercheek
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To: theothercheek
"Rest assured, Rudy cannot take away your guns as president."
No, but he can surely sign the law the Democrats will send him. And the SC will certainly find it constitutional just as they have in limiting private property rights and political speech. Rudy may not come to my front door in person for my guns, but he will gladly turn me into a criminal with the stroke of a pen.
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posted on
06/04/2007 12:30:49 PM PDT
by
penowa
(NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
To: theothercheek
If you're looking for somebody who will tell you exactly what she intends to do to you and not lie, why not vote for Hillary? At least she's honest. She's going to take everything you have and give it to somebody she says needs it more than you do.
If you expect Rudy to tell you the truth, which statements that he's made are you going to believe? How about judging him on what he's DONE previously? You don't seem to have any trouble applying that standard to Romney. Why not Rudy? (P.S. Don't turn your back on either one of them, or McCain for that matter.)
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posted on
06/04/2007 12:47:49 PM PDT
by
penowa
(NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
To: theothercheek
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posted on
06/04/2007 1:04:10 PM PDT
by
citizen
(Bi-Partisan (Dims+Bush) Amnistia coming soon to a nation near you. "We don't need no stinkin' fence")
To: Joe Brower
I think we are on the same page.
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posted on
06/04/2007 5:13:22 PM PDT
by
A Strict Constructionist
(The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
To: investigateworld
WWII and this are two different situation and I assume that your talking about our poor not illegal poor.
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posted on
06/04/2007 5:15:50 PM PDT
by
A Strict Constructionist
(The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
To: Aquinasfan
Has Peggy lost her mind? Anyone who supports legalized murder (abortion) is unfit for any public office. Peggy did not say that. Read it again carefully. Also, if you have not, read Peggy's post on its own
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posted on
06/04/2007 5:18:13 PM PDT
by
don-o
(“I don`t expect politicians to solve anyone's problems.The world owes us nothing” Bob Dylan)
To: theothercheek
To me this is entirely different than offering sanctuary to a person that is being persecuted, i.e. Jews during WWII and Christians in Arab countries. It is a perversion of sanctuary as these people will not be harmed.
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posted on
06/04/2007 5:18:21 PM PDT
by
A Strict Constructionist
(The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
To: theothercheek
An innocent life is an innocent life and losing innocent life to terrorism is as bad as losing innocent life to abortion.Yes, I suppose it is. But I can grab my baby and kids and run.
I baby in his Mama's womb, has no place to run or hide when his Mother decides to hire a hit man to kill him.
And no one else is allowed to save him.
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posted on
06/04/2007 6:16:30 PM PDT
by
carenot
(Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
To: NRA2BFree
Peter King (R-NY) is as staunchly pro life as anyone on this thread. He is putting abortion on the back burner and supporting Rudy because he thinks Rudy is the strongest on national security issues.
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posted on
06/04/2007 6:28:30 PM PDT
by
theothercheek
("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
To: rodeo-mamma
I believe the same things you believe: abortion is wrong, embryonic stem cell research is wrong, we must beat back Islamofascism, all of us collectively have second amendment rights not just those in militias, immigration is good but illegal immigration is destroying our country, etc., etc., etc. But when you rank the issues in importance the numbering on my list has changed. Number One is beating back Islamofascism. Same list, different priorities. Next election the priorities may well change again even though the list won’t.
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posted on
06/04/2007 6:34:34 PM PDT
by
theothercheek
("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
To: indylindy
I am making a distinction in my mind between conservatives and republicans. That’s why I am willing to entertain the idea of conservatives of both parties banding together to vote for whichever candidate in whichever party is most likely to govern as a conservative.
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posted on
06/04/2007 6:37:57 PM PDT
by
theothercheek
("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
To: theothercheek
The Stiletto is delusional.
Geiulliani is one of the biggest immigration pander3ers in history. Not only was New York a sanctuary city, but Giulliani sued the federal government over the 1996 Welfare Reform Act, to ensure that New York could continue to provide benefits to illegal aliens.
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posted on
06/04/2007 6:41:10 PM PDT
by
rmlew
(It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
To: penowa
I saw what Rudy did on 9/11. I also saw a city mired in failed liberal programs and going bankrupt under the weight of their staggering cost. I saw Rudy save New York from the liberals and save it from the terror that the 9/11 hijackers sought to inflict. There’s many a slip twixt the cup and the lip and Rudy may yet do something to get me to reconsider my inclination to vote for him, but I will most assuredly be basing my vote on what he’s done.
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posted on
06/04/2007 6:42:13 PM PDT
by
theothercheek
("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
To: Swordfished
OK - all the libs I know told me from the beginning that Bush was stupid and had no brain. Could they possibly have been correct all along?
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posted on
06/04/2007 6:44:45 PM PDT
by
theothercheek
("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
To: Badeye
A plausible theory and highly interesting...particularly the Gore portion. I don't see her losing to any of the announced Democrat candidates, she has too strong a plurality within the party. Gore is another matter altogether. For one, he can match her in celebrity (if not in novelty).
At the end of the day though, I still think it highly likely she will be the next president due to her celebrity, the novelty of a woman president and the high level of Bush-hate creating a weariness in the voters and a desire for "change." (But I have a skewed, low, opinion of American voters generally).
Of course, that depends a great deal on whether the Republicans can unite behind a successor candidate, and that candidate is one that can match her celebrity and talk and campaign circles around her. If that happens, because this election will be very close, like 2000, then the Republicans could hold the White House in what will appear a great upset.
To: CharacterCounts
Unlike “moderate Muslims” who don’t exist IMO, I do believe that moderate and conservative Dems exist. Don’t you think they are alarmed at the immigration bill for the same reasons we are? Don’t you think they want to win the war in Iraq as badly as we do? Don’t you think they are as G-d fearing as some of those on this thread? Don’t you think they are sick and tired of the moonbats setting their party’s agenda? Tell the truth: If a younger version of Zell Miller were to come along wouldn’t you jump across party lines to vote for him? I would - if the Republicans did not field anyone else to my liking.
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posted on
06/04/2007 6:49:45 PM PDT
by
theothercheek
("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
To: A Strict Constructionist
That's correct, I'm referring to OUR OWN poor, not those who sneak in.
These illegals are just here for economic advantage, not refugees or persons at risk for life and limb. And the Good Lord knows we have enough of our own poor to worry about.
To: popdonnelly
would cause our country to lose its great capacity to assimilate newcomers. the newcomers have no interest in assimilating... and the libs think it's wrong to want them to assimilate... this is why the US has lost its identity... i'm 42... as a child, i felt i knew what it was to be an American... i was proud of our country... even just 30 years ago, there was still an identity that Americans shared... it's gone... now everything is multicultural... nothing is American...
To: Joe Brower
But what the U.S. is undergoing is an illegal invasion, not "immigration".In our old age, we will look back on these days with great bitterness, and our children will curse our generation for squandering their great national legacy.
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posted on
06/04/2007 7:28:49 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
To: theothercheek
Of the 19 declared presidential candidates as of this writing, Rudy Giuliani is the most logical choice to forge this new coalition of conservatives. He is enough of a social liberal to attract Reagan Democrats
At this point, the author displays his complete lack of understanding of Reagan Democrats. They weren't (and aren't Democrats) because of social issues - they are because of economic issues. They're the people that endless NAFTA-like deals, the outsourcing of jobs to third world countries, and so on drove from the party ... you know, those policies that the Rockafeller wing of the Republican party saddled the Socons with.
It's perfectly logical to try and reforge such a coalition - but Duncan Hunter (not Rudy Giuliani) is the man to do it.
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posted on
06/04/2007 7:32:08 PM PDT
by
Old_Mil
(Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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