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Bush Fears For Nation’s Soul; Peggy Noonan Fears For Bush’s Soul
Political Mavens/Jewish World Review ^ | June 4, 2007

Posted on 06/04/2007 6:14:33 AM PDT by theothercheek

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To: Old_Mil

Rudy is regarded by the Club for Growth as being an anti-tax fiscal conservative. So that part will indeed appeal to Reagan Democrats. But Reagan Democrats are moderate on social issues, not ultraconservative. In time, with a series of increasingly right-tilting Republican candidates they can be coaxed to vote for someone more conservative than otherwise. But you can’t scare them off right away. You have to ease them toward the right direction. On the other hand, seeing them jump party lines to vote for someone more center-right than anyone the Dem party is fielding might inspire Blue Dogs to eventually run themselves. Then WE might consider voting for one of them. I’m done with the same old, same old Republicans - but I do not want to sit out election day,


201 posted on 06/04/2007 7:58:40 PM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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To: Travis McGee

This is truly frightening - especially as I live in the gray area.


202 posted on 06/04/2007 8:00:07 PM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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To: theothercheek
I moved from San Diego to NE Florida, to get out of the potential conflict zone.

I don't want my kids to grow up in Kosovo X 100, if it comes to that.

203 posted on 06/04/2007 8:04:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
I moved from San Diego to NE Florida, to get out of the potential conflict zone

WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO WELCOME BACK TRAVIS MCGEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


204 posted on 06/04/2007 8:39:52 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: AdamSelene235

Oh, that Oleg Volk does such GREAT work!


205 posted on 06/04/2007 8:52:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: theothercheek

This is a huge reversal from the praise and virtual deification that Noonan heaped on Bush five years ago. She is slow, but I am glad to see her thinking with more clarity.


206 posted on 06/04/2007 10:35:01 PM PDT by LordBridey
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To: theothercheek
I am making a distinction in my mind between conservatives and republicans. That’s why I am willing to entertain the idea of conservatives of both parties banding together to vote for whichever candidate in whichever party is most likely to govern as a conservative.

The distinction in my mind has always been clear. I am for the winning GOP, the winning GOP that Reagan created. Conservatives that are socially and fiscally conservative. It is the policy that wins. It wins because it embraces the best America has to offer.

Those Reagan Democrats stuck with us in the South until they realized that the GOP was dumping socially conservative issues off the boat.

I could never trust a Democrat who says he is socially conservative. That is a smoke screen because the Democrat Party knows those voters are worth taking back, even if you have to fool them.

The Democrats are showing just how liberal they are now, and merely dupe people into believing they care about faith.

None of the Democrats will ever get my vote. The GOP needs to straighten up its act, which I am doubting they are capable of under current leadership.

I do not vote for liberals in either party.

207 posted on 06/05/2007 3:58:13 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Travis McGee
Yo', Matt! When did they let you back in? $;-) Hard to believe it's been a year.

Looks like you're keeping busy, I see!

Yes, the immigration juggernaut is looking grim -- the agenda has been advanced so far for so long now, our elites are simply "in your face" with the whole program now. Well, it's not over 'til it's over...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

208 posted on 06/05/2007 4:14:01 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Who wrote this article? I don’t think it was Peggy Noonan.
209 posted on 06/05/2007 4:26:52 AM PDT by ChessExpert (President Bush might as well say: "Read my lips. It is not an amnesty bill")
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To: indylindy

This is not a Peggy Noonan article. I can’t identify an author. Vanity?


210 posted on 06/05/2007 4:32:01 AM PDT by ChessExpert (President Bush might as well say: "Read my lips. It is not an amnesty bill")
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To: ChessExpert
This is not a Peggy Noonan article. I can’t identify an author. Vanity?

As far as I can tell, the person/persons that constructed this vanity mish mash of really good articles, did so with the purpose of taking excerpts of the original articles and spinning them into a reason to support Rudy.

The original articles never mentioned him. In fact it really isn't clear where Peggy's words left off and the schuyster took over.

If I were Noonan, I would be very irritated. She has been repeatedly flamed for words that are not hers.

I think someone knew that the articles used in this piece were powerful and sought to turn them into an opportunity to benefit Rudy.

211 posted on 06/05/2007 4:44:56 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: don-o
Peggy did not say that. Read it again carefully.

Doh! Sorry about that.

212 posted on 06/05/2007 5:22:04 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: indylindy; theothercheek
Agreed.

theothercheek, are you the author/compiler of this mishmash?

213 posted on 06/05/2007 5:30:12 AM PDT by ChessExpert (President Bush might as well say: "Read my lips. It is not an amnesty bill")
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To: Aquinasfan
Doh! Sorry about that.

I made the same mistake. Post is not formatted all that well.

214 posted on 06/05/2007 5:42:24 AM PDT by don-o (“I don`t expect politicians to solve anyone's problems.The world owes us nothing” Bob Dylan)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

‘Of course, that depends a great deal on whether the Republicans can unite behind a successor candidate, and that candidate is one that can match her celebrity and talk and campaign circles around her. If that happens, because this election will be very close, like 2000, then the Republicans could hold the White House in what will appear a great upset.’

Thats about where I’m at right now as well.


215 posted on 06/05/2007 5:57:13 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: theothercheek
Tell the truth: If a younger version of Zell Miller were to come along wouldn’t you jump across party lines to vote for him?

In a heartbeat. He'd be a much more conservative president than Rudy.
216 posted on 06/05/2007 6:08:26 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Joe Brower

Nope, it ain’t over yet.


217 posted on 06/05/2007 9:12:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: investigateworld

I’m afraid the WSJ Republicans want to create more poor...mainly us. It’s hard to control people that can afford to say no to big government.


218 posted on 06/05/2007 9:29:29 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: A Strict Constructionist
That's pretty much the way I see it. A academy classmate of mine has been in touch recently. (He was a good looking kid and decided working one man car's and getting whupped in a biker bar fights with 50-1 odds against him wasn't worth it. He went over to the federal side and is now approaching retirement. He's looking for real estate in Oregon and knows this Scotsman will find him a deal ;^)

But it's his belief that both parties are running a scam on the public. He's in a position to observe some of the players we talk about here. These guys, drink and party with each other like long lost brothers.

He's observed the various parties come and go since the 19___ (never burn a source is my belief). He has told me 9-11 would have happened regardless of which party was in power, 'cause nobody gives a sh*t about John Q. Public.

But the 'establishment' did get a bit upset as the fourth hijacked airliner was heading towards their sacred turf.

When he pulls the pin, he promises to join in FReeping ;^)

219 posted on 06/05/2007 10:19:47 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: investigateworld

Really looking forward to his comments when the time comes.


220 posted on 06/06/2007 6:31:45 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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