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Fred Thompson Faces Critics on the Right
NewsMax.com ^ | June 5, 2007 | Fred Lucas, staff writer at CNSNews.com

Posted on 06/05/2007 8:03:39 AM PDT by kellynla

While many Republican voters view likely presidential candidate Fred Thompson as the great conservative hope of 2008, a review of Thompson's Senate voting record and past comments could change the minds of some conservatives.

Thompson was quoted expressing support for abortion rights in 1994 when he first ran for the Senate from Tennessee, although once in the Senate, he consistently voted pro-life.

He not only voted for, but was a major booster of the campaign finance reform bill that many conservatives believe infringes on free speech. And although he has been a vocal opponent of the Senate's current immigration reform bill, he supported legislation in 1998 to help illegal immigrant farm workers temporarily stay in the U.S.

"He's a nice enough guy, but the idea he is the second coming of Reagan is a bit exaggerated," David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union, told Cybercast News Service.

"The interest in his candidacy signals the dissatisfaction voters have with the first tier. He could fill the void for people who are saying, 'gee, isn't there anybody else,'" Keene added.

The first questions surrounding Thompson and abortion appear on a 1994 candidate survey from the non-partisan group Project Vote Smart, in which he answered that abortions should always be legal in the first trimester of the pregnancy. He also indicated his support for parental notification laws.

During that same year, in the July/August 1994 issue of Republican Liberty, a newsletter for libertarian Republicans, Thompson was quoted as saying: "Government should stay out of it. No public financing. The ultimate decision must be made by the woman. Government should treat its citizens as adults capable of making moral decisions on their own."

However, Thompson's voting record in the Senate was pro-life. He registered a zero rating from Planned Parenthood and NARAL Pro-Choice America and a rating of 100 percent from the National Right to Life Committee.

Past comments notwithstanding, other pro-life activists say Thompson's votes are more important.

"We've been very satisfied. We can discount a dozen year-old comment when we look at the record he has held," said David O'Steen, executive director of the National Right to Life Committee, in an interview.

Thompson told the Weekly Standard earlier this year that he did not recall saying he supported abortion rights.

"Although I don't remember it, I must have said something to someone as I was getting my campaign started that led to a story. Apparently, another story was based upon that story, and another was based upon that, concluding I was pro-choice."

Thus far, social conservatives are not upset with Thompson, said Wendy Wright, president of the conservative group Concerned Women for America.

"I'm only speaking anecdotally, but I've had a lot of conversations about Fred Thompson, and I'm not sensing any concerns," Wright told Cybercast News Service. "What they're saying now is that he's had a solid pro-life voting record."

On an issue that strongly divides Republicans - illegal immigration - Thompson has staked out a position against the current Senate bill that would provide a path for citizenship for the 12 million illegal immigrants already here, create a temporary worker program and stiffen penalties on employers who hire illegal immigrants.

He even used his spot as a guest host on the Paul Harvey radio program to voice opposition.

However, in the Senate, Thompson voted in 1998 for a bill that established a temporary farm worker program, similar to the guest worker program supported by Bush.

John Vinson, president of American Immigration Control, said no candidate is perfect but believes there are reasons to oppose Thompson.

"I'm happy he condemned the bill in the Senate," Vinson told Cybercast News Service. "But I'm bothered he doesn't seem to think we should encourage them to go back."

Thompson's supporters have no questions about his conservative credentials.

"I know Fred Thompson is a man of his word," Tennessee State Rep. Jason Mumpower, a member of the national Draft Fred Thompson 2008 Committee, told Cybercast News Service. "I know that he said no to this amnesty bill. I know what he did on abortion. I trust him. If America takes a look at him, they'll see the same thing I see."

In the Senate, Thompson joined some moderate Republicans in voting to raise the minimum wage in 1996, in voting for a "patient's bill of rights" in 2001 to mandate better coverage by health-care plans and in supporting the 2001 Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform Act.

The campaign finance reform bill, sponsored by Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, angered many conservatives who believe restrictions on political donations violate free speech.

Thompson's support for the proposal was one of the reasons he was among just four Republican senators to support the McCain 2000 presidential campaign. McCain is also running for the 2008 GOP nomination.

"He was a reliable conservative in the Senate except for the McCain-Feingold bill, and that's because he was enamored with John McCain," Keene said.

On a similar front, when Thompson chaired investigative hearings probing alleged illegal fundraising by Democrats in the 1996 election, he expanded the probe to include his own party as well.

In the 1999 Senate impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton, Thompson voted not guilty on the charge of perjury, but did vote to remove Clinton from office on the charge of obstruction of justice.

Among the conservative groups that rank members of Congress based on their voting records, the American Conservative Union gave Thompson an 84 percent rating in 2001. In the most recent ratings, the Christian Coalition gave Thompson a 77 percent score and the Eagle Forum a 75 percent score in 2002.

Those rankings are comparable to interest groups' scores for McCain, who is often scorned by the right.

Because former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, two of the Republican presidential front-runners, were never in Congress, they were never ranked. However, both are facing scrutiny concerning their past support of abortion rights, homosexual rights and gun control.

Romney changed his position on these matters after entering the presidential race, while Giuliani has maintained his stances.

"[Thompson] will stand not as an absolute conservative, but conservative compared to the frontrunners," John Geer, a political science professor at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, told Cybercast News Service.

"Rudy Giuliani is not a conservative, Mitt Romney will have problems based on his positions as governor of Massachusetts, and John McCain -- though he has a conservative voting record -- has problems with campaign finance reform and immigration reform," Geer added.

Geer compared Thompson's record to that of former Tennessee Republican Sen. Howard Baker, for whom Thompson worked during the 1970s.

"[Thompson] has a reasonably conservative record on social issues, but that's not what drives him," Geer said. "He's more of a Reaganite small-government Republican."

While it is not in the realm of public policy, Thompson's reputation as a lady's man between the nearly two decades he was divorced and remarried could also come up in the presidential race.

During a meeting with House Republicans in April, he reportedly said: " I was single for a long time, and, yep, I chased a lot of women ... And a lot of women chased me. And those that chased me tended to catch me."

Wright is not sure the issue will be a liability for Thompson. "I've heard a lot of people respond that at least he did it when he was single," Wright said. "He seems to have been a faithful husband when he was married."


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1 posted on 06/05/2007 8:03:49 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

I’m as far right as you can get, and I don’t have a problem with Fred Thompson.


2 posted on 06/05/2007 8:04:34 AM PDT by TommyDale (Rudy Giuliani’s candidacy is fading faster than an abortionist’s conscience.)
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To: kellynla

“He not only voted for, but was a major booster of the campaign finance reform bill that many conservatives believe infringes on free speech. And although he has been a vocal opponent of the Senate’s current immigration reform bill, he supported legislation in 1998 to help illegal immigrant farm workers temporarily stay in the U.S.”

The only two knocks against him and he has made statements recently that show that he has seen the error of those earlier stances.

I’d still vote for him.


3 posted on 06/05/2007 8:06:11 AM PDT by Grunthor (I am a GREAT sinner but I have a GREATER Saviour.)
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To: kellynla
Not an issue.

While it is not in the realm of public policy, Thompson's reputation as a lady's man between the nearly two decades he was divorced and remarried could also come up in the presidential race.

4 posted on 06/05/2007 8:08:40 AM PDT by DManA
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To: kellynla; TommyDale
Note the non-sequitor in the article On an issue that strongly divides Republicans - illegal immigration - Thompson has staked out a position against the current Senate bill that would provide a path for citizenship for the 12 million illegal immigrants already here, create a temporary worker program and stiffen penalties on employers who hire illegal immigrants.

He even used his spot as a guest host on the Paul Harvey radio program to voice opposition.

However, in the Senate, Thompson voted in 1998 for a bill that established a temporary farm worker program, similar to the guest worker program supported by Bush.

A temporary farm worker program as allowed in the 1998 bill is a far cry from the amnesty/path to citizenship/open borders legislation that is being debated right now. A workable guest worker program in which temporary workers LEGALLY enter this country for work and then return home should be an appropriate part of our immigration policy. Since there is already a temporary farm worker program in place, why would this bill need to establish another guest worker program in addition to the existing one plus granting rights to all the illegals in the country. The author is either (1) stupid or (2) a lying bastard.

5 posted on 06/05/2007 8:14:54 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: kellynla
The campaign finance reform bill, sponsored by Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, angered many conservatives who believe restrictions on political donations violate free speech

Strawman that Fred supporters like to throw around..."Who cares about the donation limit??". Pay no attention to the parts of M-F that directly infringe on real free-speech within 60 days of an election.

Look over there at the money clauses, while I steal your political free-speech over here.

Think I'll look for someone that didn't do so...

6 posted on 06/05/2007 8:16:52 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years......WOLFHOUNDS!!!!)
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Sure sounds like some groups/people are might scared of Fred running.


7 posted on 06/05/2007 8:18:02 AM PDT by TaxxMann (Can't put a dollar sign on citizenship - oh wait, they just did !)
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To: kellynla

Wasn’t it Reagan that also made a bunch of illegals legal? If so, Thompson is very close to him.

The CPF issue is crap though, but 1 bad vote (or even a handful)shouldn’t be the death of thompson. Besides you’ll never find a politico that votes 100% the way you prefer.


8 posted on 06/05/2007 8:18:51 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: kellynla
How could anyone vote for Thompson? He's never even dressed up as a woman once! Everyone knows you need to dress up as a chick several times before you can be considered a serious presidential candidate!

Rudy leads the pack as far as Republican cross-dressing candidates. He's going to be hard to beat! The problem is, of course, that guy who is running for the Democrats that calls himself Hillary. He's a hard core transvestite.

Thompson does not have a chance unless he puts on something like a strapless outfit. With one of those push-up bras. Somethign tasteful but maybe also bold. Maybe with some fishnet stockings?

9 posted on 06/05/2007 8:19:20 AM PDT by heywaitadarnminute (This post happens between 12 AM and 12 PM)
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To: kellynla; JCEccles
Fred Thompson Faces Critics on the Right

NewsMax found out about JCEccles! LOL.

FRegards, JC.
10 posted on 06/05/2007 8:20:24 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: kellynla

Strange, I haven’t heard any conservatives critical of Thompson.


12 posted on 06/05/2007 8:22:56 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: TommyDale

He might not be perfect but he is more conservative than any of the front-runners now.


13 posted on 06/05/2007 8:23:10 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: kellynla
You can’t please everyone.

Fred does have substance and there are legitimate arguments in his favor.

The only thing I get from the Rudy freaks is that same tired old “he’s most electable” drivel.

14 posted on 06/05/2007 8:23:37 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: TommyDale

This whole idea that is increasingly infesting conservatism that a candidate has to be in lockstep with a voter on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE in order to garner his or her support is just plain nuts.

It’s also shepherded by the drive-by media. Anytime a Republican seems to be gaining in popularity, here comes a slew of articles along the lines of “Joe Smith Popular with GOP, But Some Doubt Stance On (fill in the blank),” in an effort to dilute his support.

You never see them do that on the Dem side. It’s so damned obvious, but — as can be seen around here all the time — a good many conservatives fall for the tactic every single time it’s used.


15 posted on 06/05/2007 8:24:33 AM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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To: kellynla

About the only candidate I’d be 100% happy with is me. But his voting record on the most fundamental issue- the preservation of innocent life— and his stances on limited government and illegal immigration, are enough to get me exicted. That’s a far cry from what we’ve had for the last 19 years- moderates and liberals in the White House!


16 posted on 06/05/2007 8:25:00 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Why are we importing Mexican socialists?)
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To: kellynla

“Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right?” Way more clowns than jokers when it comes to Fred.


17 posted on 06/05/2007 8:25:12 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Thompson in 2008 - there is no doubt about it! [GWB has jumped the duck])
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To: kellynla
"President Thompson" has such a nice ring to it.
18 posted on 06/05/2007 8:26:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: kellynla

How does a 100% correct voting record against abortion and opposition to the amnesty bill give Thompson problems on the right? The article makes no sense at all.


19 posted on 06/05/2007 8:26:34 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: kellynla

It is very very bothersome to me that Thompson supported the clearly unconstitutional McCain-Feingold CFR ...


20 posted on 06/05/2007 8:27:49 AM PDT by Babu
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