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First Grant Amnesty, Then Deny It
Real Clear Politics ^ | June 5, 2007 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 06/05/2007 3:15:38 PM PDT by gpapa

Supporters of a lax immigration policy love to hurl the charge of "Know-Nothingism" against their critics. But, oddly enough, it is the Senate immigration bill that duplicates a key element of the 19th-century Know-Nothing platform. Those long-ago nativists wanted to make immigrants wait 21 years to become citizens. The Senate bill effectively creates a comparable waiting period.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalaliens; immigration; knownothings

1 posted on 06/05/2007 3:15:39 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: gpapa
The bill gives pretty much every illegal alien here immediate legal status in the form of a probationary Z visa. That's the amnesty.

Why sweep the floor when you can just redefine 'dirty'. What is the meaning of is anyway?...
2 posted on 06/05/2007 3:22:09 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

It also guarantees them a home here without becoming a citizen. It also continues to have everyone else pay their bills as they transfer their money home.


3 posted on 06/05/2007 3:25:38 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

They still pay no taxes?


4 posted on 06/05/2007 3:28:33 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: gpapa

Can anyone please provide a list of the services illegal immigrants are eligible for?
ie. schooling for children....


5 posted on 06/05/2007 3:41:11 PM PDT by spyone
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To: kinoxi

Visa’s don’t come with SSN.


6 posted on 06/05/2007 3:58:11 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: kinoxi
Why sweep the floor when you can just redefine 'dirty'.

There's something to be said for just making everything legal. No more worries about law enforcement. Think of the money we could save by not having to hire any police, border guards, coast guard, customs agents, etc. The crime rate would fall to zero, since nothing would be a crime. :)

7 posted on 06/05/2007 3:58:32 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: nosofar
This legislation, although I have not read it all, seems to fall somewhere between anarchy and communism in it’s intent.
8 posted on 06/05/2007 4:02:43 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: spyone
Can anyone please provide a list of the services illegal immigrants are eligible for? ie. schooling for children....

This article is not directly on your point, but may be useful to you. Even here I believe she is underestimating by a large amount the total costs to taxpayers. The burden on healthcare system for unpaid medical services to uninsured illegals is huge.

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Immigration bill will raid pockets of U.S. taxpayers, by Phyllis Schlafly

The big majority of these illegal immigrants are low-skill, low-wage high school dropouts. An in-depth Heritage Foundation study by Robert Rector estimates that the average low-skill household receives $30,160 in taxpayer-paid benefits from all levels of government.

Heritage estimates that the average low-skill household pays only $10,573 in taxes at all levels. Each household, therefore, lays a net cost on U.S. taxpayers of $19,588 per year, which added up to $564 billion in 2004.

In addition to public schools, low-income Americans are the beneficiaries of more than 60 federal means-tested aid programs, including Medicaid; Earned Income Tax Credit, a cash handout that averages $1,700 per year per household; food stamps; Section 8 housing, public housing; Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, or TANF; school lunches and breakfasts; the Women, Infants and Children, or WIC, nutrition program; Social Services Block Grants, or SSBG; and legal services.

Most Americans are unaware of the enormous government transfers from taxpaying Americans to those who pay little or no income taxes.

About 45 percent of illegal immigrants work in the underground economy, thereby avoiding all income and employment taxes. And, because Mexicans send $23 billion a year of their earnings in remittances back to their home country, they pay little sales taxes for purchases of U.S. products.

In addition to the heavy costs that the bill would impose on current U.S. taxpayers, it is truly awesome to contemplate the burden put on future taxpayer when the amnestied immigrants and their many relatives retire and collect Social Security and Medicare. Heritage estimates that the net retirement costs - benefits minus taxes - could be more than $2.5 trillion, which is five times the cost of the Iraq war.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=20978

9 posted on 06/05/2007 4:05:02 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: kinoxi

-—They still pay no taxes?-—

Taxes? I don’t have no taxes! I don’t have to pay you any stinking taxes!


10 posted on 06/05/2007 4:31:49 PM PDT by claudiustg (I didn't leave the Republican Party. I was purged.)
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To: claudiustg
I need to look into gettin me one of them there Z visas...
11 posted on 06/05/2007 4:35:00 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: gpapa
CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

12 posted on 06/05/2007 8:15:10 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: spyone

The illegal aliens are not eligible for any services...

They just get them anyway using fraud and phony IDs...


13 posted on 06/05/2007 9:13:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; SirJohnBarleycorn


U.S. Congressman Steve King, Representing the Fifth District of Iowa. Back to Home Page

From the Desk of ...

Representative Steve King
5th Congressional District of Iowa

Biting the Hand That Feeds You

May 5, 2006  

On May 1st, the activists who brought you thousands of Mexican flags flying in marches down the streets of our cities are now bringing you "Nothing Gringo Day". With help from the Mexican government, Mexican unions, Mexican political groups, and through the Spanish language radio and newspapers, the call has gone out to make America experience a total boycott, both here and in Mexico. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

Just the word "boycott" sparks the image of noble dissent in the face of economic or social oppression. I think of American colonials bucking British economic interests in retaliation to the Stamp Act. Or perhaps the ostracizing of Irish landlord Charles Boycott, the namesake of the verb for all tyrannized people. If not tyrannized, at least disgruntled. If not disgruntled, maybe just bored.

Yet, isn't the key to a successful boycott an economic or social upper-hand? The cost must be felt if the offending party be forced to reform. For example, how does boycotting a movie you had no intention of going to affect the box office? More people probably see a boycotted movie due to the attention than if it had simply been ignored.

President Carter thought he was on to something when he kept American athletes out of the 1980 Moscow Olympics. That showed 'em. That particular boycott neither got the USSR out of Afghanistan nor brought down the Berlin Wall. It just caused our own athletes to suffer.

The May 1st anti-Gringo-fest is also being billed as "A Day Without Immigrants" which is a misnomer on a couple of counts. First, the threatened boycott fails to conjure the image of a Norwegian refusing to buy his May 1 lutefisk at the corner Fareway. Second, the pro-amnesty groups are insistent on confusing legal and illegal immigration. Let's not start mixing our apples and oranges. The issue before Congress is illegal immigration. Perhaps the May 1st boycott should give America a glimpse into "A Day Without ILLEGAL Immigration."

What would that May 1st look like without illegal immigration? There would be no one to smuggle across our southern border the heroin, marijuana, cocaine, and methamphetamines that plague the United States, reducing the U.S. supply of meth that day by 80%. The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens each day. Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed each day by uninsured drunk driving illegals. Our hospital emergency rooms would not be flooded with everything from gunshot wounds, to anchor babies, to imported diseases to hangnails, giving American citizens the day off from standing in line behind illegals. Eight American children would not suffer the horror as a victim of a sex crime.

On the negative side, the price of a pound of tomatoes might go up from $0.79 to $0.80. That is unless you have a garden. But I'm guessing that the Mexican drug lords are not taking May 1st off. Neither will the 11,000 illegal invaders that pour over our border every other day of the year. It is a safe bet that the U.S. Border Patrol will have a very busy "Nothing Gringo Day."

Since September 11th, it remains true that OBL is the greatest threat to America. I will leave it to the reader to decide if the greatest threat is Osama bin Laden or the Open Borders Lobby. The emerging cheap labor "ruling class" in America is the strongest supporter of amnesty for illegals. Their anti-American "new servant class" has chosen to boycott them; the very definition of irony. On May 1st, Primero de Mayo, Americans will observe, as illegal immigrants celebrate, "Bite the Hand That Feeds You Day."

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14 posted on 06/05/2007 11:08:51 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today WebTV_&_MSN-TV_users_hear_"Smoke_Gets_In_My_Eyes")
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To: devolve

Good post!


15 posted on 06/06/2007 1:55:43 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: kinoxi

Worse. They’ll be getting “earned income tax credits.”


16 posted on 06/06/2007 1:59:06 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: spyone

Welfare for anchor babies?


17 posted on 06/06/2007 2:05:53 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Bush on Immigration: Damn the Base, Full Speed Ahead!)
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To: potlatch

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Thanks potlatch -

That’s a good letter with lots of meat in it


18 posted on 06/06/2007 4:15:45 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today _20_More_Than_Al-Qaeda_Did_ _Smoke_Gets_in_My_Eyes_)
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