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To: Popocatapetl

“It is evil.”

I don’t agree with your predictions.

Don’t be foolish. The illegal immigrants KNOW they are illegal. When they see that our government is SERIOUS about upholding our immigration laws, many of them will return on their own.

In years past, our government’s immigration department handled deportations without a public outcry of being
heavy handed.

Sure, the illegals will feel the pressure. All people who break laws carry around a certain amount of fear of being caught. That’s human nature.

In this upside-down situation we have now, the persons who are breaking the law have a mindset that they are the victims and our law enforcement agencies are the bad guys.

Your sentiments do much to perpetuate this faulty thinking.

We live in a country based on law. No one should be above the law. If we loose the handle on this immigration thing, we might as well say goodbye to ever expecting people to obey the law. We will become a lawless society.

Your comments remind of parents who are afraid to discipline their children because the children won’t like it. You also are exhibiting the habit of burying one’s head in the sand and whistling in the dark that all is well — when in fact, these illegals and this terribly Anti-American immigration bill being considered — will be the downfall of the United States. We can’t afford to look the other way. We must insist that the immigration laws be enforced — before we pass more laws.


8 posted on 06/05/2007 7:47:55 PM PDT by i_dont_chat (I reserve to right to offend anyone. You can take offense or not! Your choice.)
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To: i_dont_chat
I don't say that we should have open borders, nor that we should accept those who are non-working criminal types who wish to abuse us. But no, 15 million men, women and children are not criminals, and certainly not felony criminals. Under current law illegal presence is not a criminal offense; it is a civil offense punishable by civil sanctions and deportation. In other words, the government was remiss in not preventing their entry into the US years ago. But now that they are here, some for many years, many with children born and raised in the US, deporting them is senseless cruelty. I am in favor of amnesty. Under the following conditions: 1) Illegals must be fully registered with the federal and State government in the State in which they reside. They must obey all licensing and insurance rules to drive, pay all back taxes assessed, they must have current vaccinations and be free from any contagious disease excluded from entry into the United States. 2) Adults must be either gainfully employed or live with a head of household who is gainfully employed. They must have a legal residence, and all children must be enrolled in school. 3) Felony convictions may result in permanent deportation after they serve their sentence. All citizenship requirements must be met within a limited period of time, and citizenship must be applied for an accepted for all members of the household. 4) Association with known criminals or violation of injunctions against gang participation may result in deportation. Payment of a $5,000 fine to offset the costs associated with their illegal presence. The bottom line is that the United States can and does assimilate a large number of people every year from many corners of the Earth. The current Mexican illegal alien problem is not because of an inability to integrate a reasonable number into our society, but because so many have entered illegally, they have overwhelmed our ability to integrate them. Fortunately, the birthrate in Mexico has now dropped to the developed nation level of 2.3 children per family. This means that no matter what we do, there will be a marked decline in the pressure of additional immigrants. And Mexicans as a people also have shown a much better ability to integrate than is typical for the other waves of immigrants that have arrived in America. Often the same household will have grandparents only slightly integrated, children who are functional in our society, and grandchildren who are fully American, with no ties left to Mexico. So in about 10 years, most of the problem will be over, no matter what we do. Unless we do something brutalitarian and dramatic.
17 posted on 06/05/2007 8:15:44 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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