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Ex-Police Officer Helps Subdue Two Men Onboard NWA Flight
Aero-News.net ^ | 06/05/2007 | www.nwa.com

Posted on 06/06/2007 10:23:34 AM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy

Suspects Began Screaming, Rolling In Aisle

What, exactly, happened onboard a recent Northwest Airlines flight from Minneapolis to Boston? That's the question federal investigators are now contemplating, while a former police officer is being called a hero for his role in subduing two passengers.

Boston's WBZ-TV reports Bob Hayden, a retired 28-year veteran police officer and former Lawrence, MA police chief, was a passenger on Northwest Flight 720 this weekend. Hayden says that even before the plane took off, one man started to act strangely -- pacing up and down the aisle, apparently aggravated. A flight attendant forced the man into his seat after he refused to heed the crew's requests to sit down.

After the plane took off, Hayden says the same man began screaming, before falling into the aisle. At first, Hayden says he thought the man was having a heart attack -- but when another man also started acting strangely, pulling luggage out of the overhead bin, it became clear to him something else was going on.

"He jumped out of his chair, laid on the floor, and started thrashing his legs and screaming," Hayden said. "People were nervous. The lady in front of me actually started to cry."

Flight attendants once again helped the screaming man back into his seat... but the passenger continued to yell throughout the rest of the flight. And when the plane's pilot announced the initial descent into Boston, things took yet another suspicious turn.

"They jumped out of their seats again, like something out of "The Manchurian Candidate, and did they're rolling on the floor, and yelling," Hayden said.

With the help of an ex-Marine onboard the flight, Hayden worked to subdue the men.

"We forced one into his seat, and the one on the ground, I flipped him over and landed him on his stomach," Hayden said. The two then buckled both men into their seats, and stood guard over them until the plane arrived at the gate.

Officials then took the men away for questioning, and for psychiatric evaluations. They are not facing charges at this time.

Hayden says he suspects the event was staged. For what reason, however, isn't clear.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; bobhayden; exmarine; flight720; itsthebaptistsagain; leo; marine; nwa; thosedarnbaptists
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Sounds like their goal was to distract the passengers while someone else did something. There is little doubt that they were colluding. I would examine tapes of the parking garage area and see if they arrived together and who else was with them.

That's what the retired cop thought as well. As for looking at tapes and their backgrounds, you can bet on that.

21 posted on 06/06/2007 10:47:00 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

A test to determine readiness of air marshals and other would be heroes.


22 posted on 06/06/2007 10:47:02 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: PghBaldy

Thanks - I thought at first they might have been Shakers...


23 posted on 06/06/2007 10:48:14 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
A flight attendant forced the man into his seat ...

For anybody who hasn't flown Northwest, think East German swimming team when envisioning their flight attendants.

24 posted on 06/06/2007 10:49:26 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Well, the lives of all the people on the plane did change just a tiny bit.

I would imagine so! I can't believe the younger guys didn't help at all. If I thought I might die....I sure wouldn't sit around to do it with my hands folded in my lap!

25 posted on 06/06/2007 10:49:55 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: PghBaldy

From your link - LOLOLOLOLOLOL!:

“Hayden’s wife of 42 years, Katie, who was also on the flight, was less impressed. Even as her husband struggled with the agitated passenger, she barely looked up from “The Richest Man in Babylon,” the book she was reading.

“The woman sitting in front of us was very upset and asked me how I could just sit there reading,” Katie Hayden said. “Bob’s been shot at. He’s been stabbed. He’s taken knives away. He knows how to handle those situations. I figured he would go up there and step on somebody’s neck, and that would be the end of it. I knew how that situation would end. I didn’t know how the book would end.”


26 posted on 06/06/2007 10:51:13 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: kromike
Rush also mentioned that the younger men on the plane "averted their eyes" to avoid being asked to assist.

Maybe they were afraid they'd be sued by CAIR.
27 posted on 06/06/2007 10:53:15 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Scratch a RINO, and you'll find a global elitist beneath the surface.)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Sounds like another planned activity that is designed by the muzzies to erode our resistance to being PC and lead the way to an eventual successful muzzie attack on the USA.


28 posted on 06/06/2007 10:54:17 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

I want to know from LE and the airlines at what point does an elbow to a temple stop being criminal and start being hero behavior?

(Not knowing will NOT stop me from putting down an unruly passenger I determine to be a threat.)


29 posted on 06/06/2007 10:54:24 AM PDT by Sir Clean Plate Club (Gore feels things are getting warmer because he is on his way to Hell)
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To: kromike

“I had looked around the plane for help, and all the younger guys had averted their eyes. When I asked the guy next to me if he was up to it, all he said was, ‘Retired captain. USMC.’ I said, ‘You’ll do,’ “ Hayden recalled


30 posted on 06/06/2007 10:54:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

31 posted on 06/06/2007 10:58:11 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Dumpster Baby

He had the fish.


32 posted on 06/06/2007 11:00:40 AM PDT by yobid
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To: ScaniaBoy

Raised as a Baptist, I was thinking more in lines of Wiccan.


33 posted on 06/06/2007 11:00:57 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Last Dakotan

LOL. I recently flew on NWA. Yup


34 posted on 06/06/2007 11:06:45 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: ScaniaBoy

Weren’t white Christians......that would have made the headlines!


35 posted on 06/06/2007 11:12:28 AM PDT by newcthem (George Bush.......Making America Safer............FOR MEXICAN CRIMINALS!)
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To: ScaniaBoy
Baptists?

Naw. If they're rolling on the floor and doing a lot of yelling, they're Holy Rollers most likely. (flame suit on.)

36 posted on 06/06/2007 11:14:47 AM PDT by OB1kNOb ( KILL (the) BILL !! WHERE'S THE FENCE ? Vote Conservative. Vote Duncan Hunter - 2008)
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To: massgopguy

When I saw Hayden on tv yesterday I thought he looked familiar. He used to jog(shirtless) past my street a couple of times a week. He was in amazing shape and not someone you would want to mess with.


37 posted on 06/06/2007 11:20:16 AM PDT by surrey
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To: ScaniaBoy
Baptists?

No, they were Bapticostals. LOL!

38 posted on 06/06/2007 11:20:20 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
We have to keep retraining the MSM. It is Former Marine.

There is only one Ex-Marine, Murtha.

39 posted on 06/06/2007 11:35:43 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: PghBaldy
Filipinos:

I'm guessing from one of the southern islands.

40 posted on 06/06/2007 11:43:03 AM PDT by PAR35
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