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To: Kellis91789

I suspect we agree on most aspects of immigration reform... but, I completely disagree with you about the concept of sending them all back. You obviously have not spent much time in Texas or California. If you send them ALL BACK, the economies in certain areas will, all but, collapse...as 40-50% of the population dissappears

For me... I want to KNOW who is here. I don’t care if they are/were illegal, have been here 10 years and have jobs... I want to know WHO they are. For those here, give them a “legal” status... that is NOT citizenship. Let them join the queue for citizenship....if they keep a job, learn the language, and pass a U.S. history test..... in the same time as people NOT here.

But FIRST, we must stop the flow of new illegal immigrants. To do this, we MUST do a few, relatively simple things:

1) Establish a national verification of citizenship or legal working status that a business (or landlord) can use to verify status.

2) CRACK DOWN on businesses who hire illegals not verified by the system in #1, and

3) Build the freaking fence in areas where agents can’t patrol on a constant basis.

Do these things... and, I become very lenient with the folks still here.


148 posted on 06/06/2007 8:01:46 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: SomeCallMeTim
1) Establish a national verification of citizenship or legal working status that a business (or landlord) can use to verify status.

And you think there would be truth in that, so a business that has been breaking the law is going to vouch for breaking the law, and I can give you a list of landlords that will sell the verifications like water, come one come all.

Tell me that none of this bilge you've written is serious.

162 posted on 06/06/2007 8:16:32 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Actually, I live in LA county and work in Orange county CA.

I’m well aware of how many hispanics are here, although you can’t be sure just by their accent that they are here illegally. My point is that I DO want them all sent home.

Those jobs left vacant will either be refilled by Americans moving in from other states such as those still struggling after Katrina, or the job will be eliminated as the employer finds a less labor-intensive way of accomplishing those tasks. Cheap labor is a crutch that stalls innovation.

Tomato growers in CA 50 years ago swore that if the Braceros migrant worker program was ended, they could not afford to grow tomatos. Braceros was ended, and the growers found ways to eliminate 80% of the labor while making more money growing tomatos than they ever had.

Think about maids in hotels. What percentage of maids could you eliminate if the vacuuming of rooms was done by robot independently of the other cleaning functions ? Half of a maid’s time is spent running a vacuum cleaner.

Think about construction. Where labor is cheap, everything is done onsite, building from sticks. Some builders are learning it is cheaper and a better product to build entire walls or even rooms in a factory where weather, material theft, delivery delays, etc. are less of a factor. Cheap illegal labor perpetuates inefficient building methods.

I’d even like to see the quotas raised on legal immigration to eliminate some of the backlog of people waiting for their chance. By having all the illegals go to the back of the line, we would be choosing who we want based on skills-education-employability, but the wait would be shorter.


241 posted on 06/07/2007 9:20:52 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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