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The Great Media Scandal Keeps Getting Greater {TWA 800}
WorldNetDaily ^ | 7 June 2007 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 06/07/2007 11:16:02 AM PDT by Hal1950

James Sanders is stirring again.

Two items have put the veteran investigative reporter – and my partner on the documentary "Silenced" and the book "First Strike" – on his own personal Code Orange.

One is the news out of JFK that Islamic terrorists are up to their old tricks again. At JFK? My, who da thunk it?

The second, and more personally galvanizing, is that Sanders has just gotten a big batch of new TWA Flight 800-related documents from the FBI through the Freedom of Information Act.

These documents stem from Sanders' stillborn civil suit against a government that convicted him and his wife, Elizabeth, of conspiracy for his reporting on the TWA Flight 800 investigation.

In the course of our history, citizens have received worse treatment at the hand of a generally benign government. But no reporter has been treated more shabbily at the hand of the media – ever.

In truth, the Clinton years did not bring out the best in the major media. During the TWA 800 investigation in particular, they hewed to the government line with a pride and passion that would make Edward R. Murrow squirm in his grave.

And God help the poor soul, like James Sanders, who got out of line.

Undaunted now as then, Sanders wades through these new documents like a wily prospector in Sutter's Creek. Most of the gold has been stripped away or redacted, but if you know what to look for, as Sanders does, the nuggets stand out.

His sense of humor somehow intact, Sanders forwards key documents to my shared fax under the heading, "SECRET – sensitive journalism. Do not read. If you do, you will turn into a Democrat."

The one document that intrigues me most tells of Sanders' treatment at the hands of that great 57th Street institution, CBS News.

In the way of background, Sanders had granted an exclusive interview to Emmy Award-winning CBS producer Kristina Borjesson the same day a story about his research broke in California's Riverside Press-Enterprise.

"New Data Show Missile May Have Nailed TWA 800," screamed the paper's one-inch, front-page headline on March 10, 1997.

Working with Terrel Stacey, TWA's 747 top manager inside the investigation, Sanders had received, among other information, a few foam rubber bits of seatback that contained the DNA of the investigation, streaks of an unknown red-orange residue.

Sanders had the residue tested at an independent West Coast lab, which found it to be consistent with exhaust from a solid fuel missile. To verify his claim, Sanders had sent a separate sample to CBS.

After the CBS interview had been videotaped, however, Borjesson grew alarmed when she realized no one at the "Evening News" was editing the piece.

Frustrated, she walked into a meeting of news executives and asked why the network wasn't doing the story on Sanders and his documents.

"You think it's a missile, don't you?" queried an executive she didn't recognize.

"I don't know what the hell it is," Borjesson shot back, "but don't you think we should be doing a story that asks a few questions about this guy and his documents?" The silence that followed was, as Borjesson admits, "deafening."

When she had walked in to the room, she honestly believed she was about to correct an oversight at a level where it could be corrected quickly. "I walked out of there," said Borjesson, "feeling like I'd cooked my own goose."

When CBS finally aired the story, it used what Borjesson calls "a classic avoidance tactic" to keep Sanders off the air while reporting – and dismissing – his side of the story.

Borjesson was elated, however, when "60 Minutes" expressed its interest in doing the story. She thanked its senior producer, telling him "60 Minutes" was the "last broadcast with balls." Borjesson put the residue sample in the producer's desk for safekeeping until she could locate a lab.

The FBI 302 tells the dispiriting story of what happened next. Two special agents visited CBS and talked to a senior attorney, Howard Jaeckel. Jaeckel told the FBI that "disclosing a source is very sensitive to us."

That much perfunctory business out of the way, Jaeckel and CBS eagerly cooperated with the FBI to the point of deep-sixing any scheduled production on the subject and meekly handing over the untested residue sample.

Abandoned by the last broadcast with balls, James and Elizabeth Sanders were charged with conspiracy under a law that had been enacted to discourage scavengers and souvenir hunters, not reporters.

At the time of their arraignment on Long Island, none among the media managed to pose even one First Amendment question. The reporters found it much more comfortable to frame the Sanders' transgression as simple theft.

When the Sanders' lawyer attempted to bring this issue into focus, Newsday's Bob Kessler argued the government line, insisting the Justice Department had not found sufficient evidence to declare James Sanders a journalist entitled to First Amendment protection.

This shocked Sanders in that the Riverside Press-Enterprise article had identified him as an "investigative reporter," detailed his previous nonfiction books, and described his inquiry into the TWA 800 investigation over the preceding five months.

Another reporter asked the attorney why his client did not immediately return the residue to the NTSB and turn Stacey in to the FBI. Sanders shook his head in disbelief. Was it only a generation ago that the New York Times made Daniel Ellsberg a hero by publishing the purloined and fully classified Pentagon Papers?

Of course, just four years later, as soon as a Republican re-occupied the White House, whistleblowing came roaring back into vogue with almost comic ferocity.

No state secret was safe anymore, even if its revelation endangered the world.

At the end of 2002, self-parody reached something of journalistic peak when Time magazine named as its "Persons of the Year" three female whistleblowers.

"They took huge professional and personal risks to blow the whistle on what went wrong at WorldCom, Enron and the FBI," said the newly vigilant Time, "and in so doing helped remind us what American courage and American values are all about."

Airsickness bag, anyone?


TOPICS: US: New York; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: flight800; foic; jackcashill; jamessanders; twa800; twaflight800
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Most of those who alllege Flight 800 was shot down by a missile still believe the huge fireball explosion took place at about 13,800 feet only moments after a fiery streak.

Does Cashill?

Or Sanders?

Yet, other longtime supporters of the missile(s) theory such as Swordmaker and tpaine contend that the huge fireball exploded at about 7,000 feet.

What difference does it make? Simply put, the 747 could not have been a missile(s) shootdown victim if the huge fireball bal explosion took place at anywhere near 7,000 feet moments after the fiery streak.

1 posted on 06/07/2007 11:16:06 AM PDT by Hal1950
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To: tpaine

courtesy ping


2 posted on 06/07/2007 11:18:50 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Hal1950

I think TWA 800 was not shotdown. I pretty much accept the NTSB findings.


3 posted on 06/07/2007 11:21:17 AM PDT by Perdogg (congratulations - you have just won an ipod nano)
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To: Swordmaker

ping


4 posted on 06/07/2007 11:24:10 AM PDT by PeterFinn (Oberint Dum Metuant - "Let them Hate, as long as they Fear.")
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To: Perdogg

If TWA 800 was not shot down then why does the government prosecute someone who comes up with evidence that it may have been? If the guy is coming up with tinfoil then why not disprove his evidence instead of threatening him and prosecuting him under a very specious law that was not meant to be used on reporters or authors?


5 posted on 06/07/2007 11:26:34 AM PDT by PeterFinn (Oberint Dum Metuant - "Let them Hate, as long as they Fear.")
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To: Hal1950
I remember seeing a home video on the air...moments after this happened. I definitely saw a red streak going upward toward the jet...just before the explosion... and thought "Oh my gosh... that was a ground to air missile!" I kept watching afterward to see if they would replay this particular tape and they never did.

Next thing I know...the media is playing this down and acting like everyone experienced a mass delusion.

6 posted on 06/07/2007 11:29:42 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Perdogg

I reject most all conspiracy theories, this one included. But hey, I am open minded, just extremely sceptical.


7 posted on 06/07/2007 11:31:41 AM PDT by Paradox (In the final analysis, its mostly a team sport, Principles cast off like yesterdays free agents.)
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To: Perdogg

I have followed this case for a long time and read a lot on it. I do believe it was shot down. Another Clinton Cover up. “Don’t want to rattle the public and ruin my approval rating do we?”


8 posted on 06/07/2007 11:31:59 AM PDT by 70th Division (If we loose the Republic we have lost it all.)
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To: PeterFinn

Isn’t this the guy that STOLE evidence from the collection site?

Maybe I’m thinking of another guy who was prosecuted?


9 posted on 06/07/2007 11:38:05 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: bmwcyle

Ping.


10 posted on 06/07/2007 11:40:31 AM PDT by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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To: LaineyDee

I saw that video too- there is NO WAY they will convince me otherwise. It was a missile streaking upward, then an explosion. It was aired on NATIONAL TV(CNN?) then promptly removed and never shown again.


11 posted on 06/07/2007 11:43:25 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Perdogg

If the FBI is right then the case can be closed and the files released.

As of right now the case in considered “Active” meaning all the info the FBI and NTSB has gathered is classified.

The government can’t have it both ways. (Well I guess they can because this is what they are doing right now and will be doing for the rest of my life.) If it was a fuel tank explosion, then it is not a criminal investigation and they can release all the evidence collected in the investigation. If not, then the Government should say that they don’t know for sure what happened and still suspects foul play.

I have no problem believing that a few jihads sat in a boat with a Russian missile and let one go.

A lucky hit in an empty fuel tank and boom.


12 posted on 06/07/2007 11:44:16 AM PDT by Goldwater and Gingrich
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To: 70th Division; All

I wonder sometimes if Sandy Burglar stole the documents from the National Archives that had to do with the shooting down of flight 800.

Could it be?


13 posted on 06/07/2007 11:48:28 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: 70th Division

My wife and myself both were watching breaking news at the time, and we heard statements of several eyewitnesses including pilots in the vicinity, persons on the beach, and elsewhere about the “streak” of light. Those statements were never heard of again other than as I am stating in this post.


14 posted on 06/07/2007 11:49:16 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Mr. K

Call me a conspiracy nut, but I find it completely plausible that the downing of TWA #800 was an act of terrorism. Too many witnesses, too close to the precursor of 9/11. Add in the Clinto administration and to me, it adds up.

Has there ever in the history of avionics, a commercial plane just blow up?


15 posted on 06/07/2007 11:51:10 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: LaineyDee; Mr. K
There never has been any irrefutable evidence that there ever was any such video.
16 posted on 06/07/2007 11:53:10 AM PDT by Hal1950
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To: rockinqsranch
My wife and myself both were watching breaking news at the time, and we heard statements of several eyewitnesses including pilots in the vicinity, persons on the beach, and elsewhere about the “streak” of light. Those statements were never heard of again other than as I am stating in this post.

There are lots of such witness reports readily available from both the NTSB and the internet.

17 posted on 06/07/2007 11:57:29 AM PDT by Hal1950
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To: Goldwater and Gingrich

No. The technical information in the report could be used by terrorist.


18 posted on 06/07/2007 11:58:23 AM PDT by Perdogg (congratulations - you have just won an ipod nano)
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To: Hal1950

I will bet my life that he was shot down. Spent much time on this back several yrs ago.


19 posted on 06/07/2007 12:00:54 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Hal1950

WhatReallyHappened


20 posted on 06/07/2007 12:03:26 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: PeterFinn
If TWA 800 was not shot down then why does the government prosecute someone who comes up with evidence that it may have been?

For the same reason there are still 1 million classified documents on the JFK assassination still sealed.....because the REAL truth is a bitch to explain!

21 posted on 06/07/2007 12:03:33 PM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: Mr. K

I saw it on one of our local (alphabet) channels. I’ve watched enough live war films to know what I was looking at and I...like you....will never be convinced otherwise.


22 posted on 06/07/2007 12:07:24 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Hal1950

“There are lots of such witness reports readily available from both the NTSB and the internet.”

To clarify my comment; In the MSM those eyewitness commentaries were not repeated beyond the first breaking news stories, or very soon thereafter simply weren’t broadcast.

Certainly those testimonies would have been provided the NTSB, and of course those testimonies would be repeated all over the internet.

My point is how quickly the eyewitness accounts did in fact disappear from the Mainstream News Media reporting of the event.


23 posted on 06/07/2007 12:08:35 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Perdogg

I had a dental patient a few years ago who was/is a 747 driver of 30+ yrs. experience- he believed, and many of his associates, that it was a missile strike-


24 posted on 06/07/2007 12:08:56 PM PDT by midnightson (Mama-the ultimate prognosticator- said there'd be days like this.)
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To: Hal1950

That’s too bad, eh?


25 posted on 06/07/2007 12:09:11 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Perdogg

How’s that NTSB/CIA/BJ-DOJ Kool-aid go down...is it better from a tin (foil) cup?


26 posted on 06/07/2007 12:15:03 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Goldwater and Gingrich
Just for sake of argument let’s assume it was shot down, which I actually think is what occurred. If it had been reported & confirmed have you ever thought about what would have happened? It would have been worse than 9/11, a complete shutdown of the aeronautics industry. Who would fly if they knew a missile could bring another one down? At least with 9/11 they had time to prepare people & make them think security was better. This may be one of those things that was determined to disruptive for the public to know so it was kept secret.
27 posted on 06/07/2007 12:15:25 PM PDT by millerph
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To: iopscusa; shield

It’s been a rough week. I have been called a lefty and a clintonista. Now I am a kool-aid drinker.


28 posted on 06/07/2007 12:16:17 PM PDT by Perdogg (congratulations - you have just won an ipod nano)
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To: Perdogg

1st point: I don’t know what happened.

2nd point: as a former firefighter, I can attest that the likelihood of the fuel:air stoichiometry being an explosive mixture in an enclosed vessel (center fuel tank) is hard to believe. Fuel tanks only explode in the movies, or rupture as a result of a BLEVE ... and then the fuel vapor explodes.

I have no opinion about the missile strike. I only ‘know’ from experience with a lot of Class B vehicle fires that an intact fuel tank is really quite non-explosive.


29 posted on 06/07/2007 12:21:15 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Hal1950

There’s obviouisly a collusion between the dems and the media to protect clinton’s sorry hide, but that doesn’t prove that there was a missile.


30 posted on 06/07/2007 12:23:16 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: midnightson

he believed, ...., that it was a missile strike-...So did Al Gore, John Kerry and Geo. Stephanopoulis. I heard them say so.


31 posted on 06/07/2007 12:25:07 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Hazelton...doing the job the American Government refuses to do.)
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To: Perdogg

Sorry, I like nice cold Kool-aid to relieve stress about not receiving my Ipod Nano. LOL


32 posted on 06/07/2007 12:29:47 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Hal1950

hmmmm there has never been any evidence that such a video existed you say? How about the fact that I SAW IT!


33 posted on 06/07/2007 12:31:50 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Digger
1. Why would the CIA, of all agencies, prepare an animated video to help justify the fuel tank hoax.
2. Why did all FBI interrogation suddenly stop of the hundreds of witnesses who claimed to have seen the missile streak right after Jamie Gorelick (Deputy Attorney General and later member of the 9-11 Commission) came up from Washington to quietly meet with James Kahlstrom, head of the New York F.B.I. office.
3. Why did the NTSB take over the total investigation and then refuse to let any of the 736 official eyewitnesses-several of them experienced military observers--testify at either hearing, and it disallowed all discussion of explosive residue (found all over the plane) lest the FBI one day reopen the criminal case.
34 posted on 06/07/2007 12:39:26 PM PDT by Stayfree (*************************Get your copy of The Fred Factor by David Gill at Capitol Hill Comedy.com)
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To: millerph
And the public knowledge of the terrorism would have prompted a response, and perhaps prevented 9/11, and the Aghan and Iraqi wars.

That would have been terrible, huh?

35 posted on 06/07/2007 12:41:15 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / I bleed Pinstripes)
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To: PeterFinn
If TWA 800 was not shot down then why does the government prosecute someone who comes up with evidence that it may have been?

He was convicted of stealing parts of TWA800 from the hanger where it was being assembled.

36 posted on 06/07/2007 12:46:21 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: LaineyDee

“I remember seeing a home video on the air...moments after this happened. I definitely saw a red streak going upward toward the jet...just before the explosion... and thought “Oh my gosh... that was a ground to air missile!” “

I was in Witchita that night, staying at a Holiday Inn, and there were several Boeing Engineers there too. We saw the same thing. There were also eye-witness accounts aired quoting military personnel - definitely a missle. No way that the center fuel tank blew up. I to this day believe that it was a missle.


37 posted on 06/07/2007 12:56:13 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Stayfree
$400,000 in contributions from the airlines to the Democratic National Committee. No way the Clintons were going to allow any investigation that would have caused the public to think air travel was unsafe or caused the airleines to have to spend millions on more secure aircraft.

My personal view is that this was an Operation Bojinka-style bombing, not a missile. One of many precursors to 9/11. We know now that al Qaeda has always been fascinated with airplanes and crippling the U.S. economy by shutting down air travel. They also learned from this bombing how much explosive power could be generated by blowing up a jumbo jet full of fuel -- enough to bring down the World Trade Center.

38 posted on 06/07/2007 1:05:26 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Thanks anyway, Nancy, but we already have a Commander-in-Chief!)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

You know.....it wasn’t until years later that I found ONE person who saw that video, besides myself. (then came FR) Seemed like everyone I knew personally... didn’t watch TV that night.


39 posted on 06/07/2007 1:08:36 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Hal1950

Mythbusters anyone?

Have the Mythbusters (Discovery Channel) tried to reproduce an explosion of various fuel / vapor ratios in an enclosed vessel; with varying degrees of ignition source?

If not, they should and perhaps independently put this to bed. Or perhaps re-raise the issue.

C2K


40 posted on 06/07/2007 1:24:45 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: millerph

That is exactly what I have been saying for years. Who would fly if the truth was known, and it only makes sense that the government would not want it known. I’ve always thought that one of the worse things terrorists could do would be to take out airliners on both coasts at the same time with shoulder-fired missiles. It would paralyze the country......


41 posted on 06/07/2007 1:36:09 PM PDT by ALASKA (IT'S NOT ROCKET SURGERY......................Don't just do something, STAND THERE!!!)
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To: LaineyDee

That night in Witchita staying at that Holiday Inn I ordered my dinner in the bar. Had a beer with it. That is how I managed to be with Boeing engineers that night too. They said that only a missle or a bomb on board could have brought that baby down. We saw the missle, same as you did.


42 posted on 06/07/2007 1:49:11 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Mr. K
hmmmm there has never been any evidence that such a video existed you say? How about the fact that I SAW IT!

There has never been any irrefutable evidence.

Allegations are not irrefutable evidence.

43 posted on 06/07/2007 1:59:08 PM PDT by Hal1950
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To: 70th Division
I do believe it was shot down.

By who?

44 posted on 06/07/2007 2:02:41 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
That night in Witchita staying at that Holiday Inn I ordered my dinner in the bar. Had a beer with it. That is how I managed to be with Boeing engineers that night too. They said that only a missle or a bomb on board could have brought that baby down. We saw the missle, same as you did.

Again, allelgations are not irrefutable evidence.

BTW, thousands had their VCR recorders going that night but not even one has surfaced in the now nearly 11 years since the disaster. How could that be if it was on TV all over the country.?

Government agents weren't even able to suppress that one blue dress Clinton left a stain on.

At any rate, please tell us what the approximate altitude of the huge fireball was.

45 posted on 06/07/2007 2:10:57 PM PDT by Hal1950
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To: teddyballgame
Has there ever in the history of avionics, a commercial plane just blow up?

Yes. There were a couple of 737s that had fuel tanks explode while at the loading gate. Aerolinee Itavia Flight 870 was a DC-9 that exploded in mid-air. Pan Am Flight 214 and LANSA Flight 508 both exploded in mid-air, and the cause was later identified as a lightning strike.

46 posted on 06/07/2007 2:11:04 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Perdogg
"It’s been a rough week. I have been called a lefty and a clintonista. Now I am a kool-aid drinker."

Some don't like to hear opposing points of view. It's to their detriment -- not yours.

47 posted on 06/07/2007 2:11:28 PM PDT by Tx Angel
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To: Safetgiver
So did Al Gore, John Kerry and Geo. Stephanopoulis. I heard them say so.

Why is it that when Al Gore, John Kerry, or George Stephanopoulis talk about politics or global warming or almost anything else then most of the people here immediately suspect their truthfulness, but when it comes to TWA 800 suddenly their word is gospel?

48 posted on 06/07/2007 2:16:55 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: JoeA
And the public knowledge of the terrorism would have prompted a response, and perhaps prevented 9/11, and the Aghan and Iraqi wars.

So what nefarious terrorist group should we have struck back at? I'm not aware that any claimed credit.

49 posted on 06/07/2007 2:18:16 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
I to this day believe that it was a missle.

What kind?

50 posted on 06/07/2007 2:19:07 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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